I want sync two Macs, three iPhones and one iPad by using WiFi

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braleta
braleta
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edited January 2015 in Mac

L&G,
I am owning an iMac, a MacBook Pro, three iPhones and one iPad.
I would like to have the same (identical) data on all of these my six machines, and I would like to do the syncing by using WiFi.
It is easy to syncronize one MAC with different iPhones by using WiFi, but how do I syncronize the two MACs and - in addition to these two - also my iPhones and my iPad?

Thank you in advance for your help!

...braleta

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  • littlebobbytables
    littlebobbytables
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    Hi @braleta‌

    While you can technically do so it does require using one of your iOS devices as a bridge between the two. You would have to repeatedly disable Wi-Fi Sync to one Mac and enable it for the other. It's a manual process and it wasn't quite how it was envisaged Wi-Fi Sync being used.

    In situations like this we'd recommend one of the Cloud solutions, either iCloud or Dropbox. Is you choice of Wi-Fi Sync a strongly personal choice? If it is you'd probably want to consider Folder Sync to locally sync between the Macs and keep using Wi-Fi Sync on one of the Macs to keep all the iOS devices synchronised. Now we do label this for advanced users because they need to use a third party sync program such as rsync or ChronoSync.

    Let us know how you would like to continue and we'll do our best to try and support.

  • pci
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    To be honest I still don't understand how this solution should work. On MacBook I activate Folder Sync. If I do the same on iMac, it just overwrites the existing data there. iMac will not recognize the already existing data there. Why? Can you please explain more in details how to configure both Macs for folder sync?

  • pci
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    I forgot to say: I have got 1P5 from agilebits.

  • littlebobbytables
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    Hi @pci‌

    When you're enabling Folder Sync, where are you storing the .agilekeychain on your MacBook and when you say the iMac is overwriting the existing data how are you setting up Folder Sync on the iMac?

    What we recommend is when you use Folder Sync you have it sync to a location on your machine. The reason for this is with iCloud and Dropbox both keep local copies of the cloud stored data (so the sync location is always present no matter what net connectivity you have). As a result 1Password assumes the sync location is always present and can get grumpy if it isn't.

    This results in two copies of the .agilekeychain which you then need to merge (which is pretty much how Dropbox works). This is where ChronoSync or rsync come into play. We mention these two on the Folder Sync page but you can use whatever sync program you want.

    This is where it gets complex though. One way we can make this easier is if you're likely to only alter your vault on one of your Macs. So say your MacBook Pro is your primary device. Have that machine use Wi-Fi Sync to all of your iOS devices (I believe the trick is to not have them all sync at the same time). Then every so often you could manually copy the .agilekeychain from your MacBook Pro and replace the one on your Mac Mini. The Mac Mini should then sync and pick up the changes.

    Could that be an acceptable workaround to the complexities of Folder Sync for you?

  • pci
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    Hi @littlebobbytables

    I have got here QNAP NAS with Qsync. There is a folder called Qsync on both Macs so they both have a local copy of the shared data.
    But I'm afraid that Qsync service from QNAP is not able to merge the changed files, it can probably only replace or rename changed files.

    What I did was:
    1) On my MacBook I started Folder Sync. The result was a local copy in Qsync folder and a copy on NAS.
    2) Then I opened 1P5 on iMac, clicked Folder Sync, chose the local Qsync folder.
    3) After a while reported Qsync a name conflict and asked me what to do with files with same name. Whether to replace or rename. The question is at this point if 1P5 on iMac already merged the NAS copy with local vault. Then I could answer to replace. Because I didn't know what to do, I canceled the operation.

  • pci
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    Hi @littlebobbytables,

    why if I configure Folder Sync on second Mac (iMac in my case) and the .agilekeychain file is already existing in the folder, is the button still called "Create" and not "Merge" ? Will be the existing file replaced by local vault or merged with local vault?

  • littlebobbytables
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    Hi @pci,

    I don't own a QNAP but if I didn't know any better it sounds like the Qsync service hasn't had time to copy the .agilekeychain from the server to your iMac before you've tried to set up Folder Sync there. Certainly if 1Password finds an existing .agilekeychain of the same name the button should change from Create New to Merge With Existing. The Qsync name conflict error sounds like something that could happen if my suspicion is correct.

    What happens if you give the iMac a little time so that the Qsync service has time to do its thing?

  • pci
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    Hi @littlebobbytables,

    that was it! I had to let Qsync service more time to synchronize with second Mac (iMac). Then after activating of Folder Sync on iMac changed the button from "Create" to "Merge with existing" and 1P5 merged the NAS copy with local vault. Thanks a lot for your advice. Problem solved!

    Cheers

    pci

  • littlebobbytables
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    That's great news @pci - great to hear it's working :smile:

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