Second vault that can't be opened by primary - on same computer

sraosha

Hi,

I am currently trying out 1password 4 on my iMac. I understand how to create secondary vaults and share them, etc.

It seems that by unlocking the primary vault, all the secondary vaults are unlocked as well - so the primary vault seems to be a master vault.

However, I would need a secondary vault that is NOT automatically unlocked together with the primary. The reason is that I would like to stor my rather sensitive crypto currency related stuff in this secondary vault. I would rarely use this secondary vault and secure it with a much stronger password; something almost like a 'cold storage'.

So, is this achievable at all? Would creating a second user be necessary? I don't want to have to change my Mac user though if possible, in order to use this second 'crypto-vault'.

Thanks,

sraosha

Oh, and one more thing: While I would use my primary vault on all devices (Mac, IOS, Android), I want to restrict the Crypto vault to my two Macs. So, another reason for having two distinct vaults.

rickfillion

Hi @sraosha,

Thanks for writing in. Unfortunately there's no easy way to do this in 1Password at the moment. Your idea of using a second user account would be one way of achieving it. Another would be to only temporarily create a secondary vault, then setup sync to the dropbox account when you needed the vault. This would be annoying to do, but could work in theory.

We'll keep this scenario in mind and hopefully we can do something to make this easier in a future version.

Rick

sraosha

Hello Rick,

Thanks for the quick reply!

Another idea I had in the meantime - to reverse the whole concept:
Would it work if I create my 'crypto-vault' as the primary one and then set up a secondary vault with its own password as the one that I use on a daily base. I then could sync only the secondary one and only use the secondary one with its own password - without having to unlock the primary vault most of the time.

Would this work as well or is there some substantial error in my thinking.

From what I have learned from trying out your software I am really hooked already. I love your straight forward approach - but at the same time have to address the issue with my crypto currency stuff.

If the above idea doesn't work out I would maybe leave the private keys for my crypto wallets on a real cold storage (encrypted dmg) USB stick at the moment and only keep the login data for BTC exchanges on the daily-use vault; I normally don't have much cash sitting anyways on exchanges.

So, while I embrace the ONE password for all idea, I feel there is really demand for a second level, one where it doesn't matter typing longer passwords that I can't remember and have to type from a paper sitting in a safe. Right now I don't see this addressed properly in Bitcoin/Crypto currency world and it would be great if you can come up with a solution to this.

Cheers,

rickfillion

Hi @sraosha,

If I'm understanding correctly, yes that would work. Good thinking!

Rick

sraosha

Thank you! Will try it this way then.

littlebobbytables

Hi @sraosha‌

You can definitely unlock just a secondary vault so that be an acceptable solution for you. Secondary vaults are still pretty new so there is always the potential for change. Let us know how you get along.