Local sync and item archiving

AGAlumB
AGAlumB
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This discussion was created from comments split from: Can no longer fill login for Citi credit card accounts.

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  • wmagri
    wmagri
    Community Member

    @brenty: Thanks for the reply. Here are a couple of nagging issues with 1Password I'd like to mention.

    1) I do not want my vault in the cloud, so I use my iPhone to sync between several Macs and a work PC. However I noticed that some of the login notes get duplicated several times, so I have to manually edit them each time this happens. I assume this was due to the syncing between several different devices. I would prefer a simple NAS/private cloud solution for all of my devices.

    2) I have several logins, old credit cards, etc. that I would like to keep in my vault for reference, but I do not want them to appear with the rest of my items. I could manually move these to another vault, but an archive option would be very much appreciated.

    With regard to the OS, I've used them all since Mac OS 6 (not iOS 6, or OS X 10.6, but Mac OS 6). I have't had any unsurmountable problems with El Capitan on my new MacBook Pro, but I prefer to stay with Mavericks for my other MacBook Pro and Mac mini. Maybe I'll give in at some point when the security updates stop coming.

  • AGAlumB
    AGAlumB
    1Password Alumni

    @wmagri: I hope you don't mind, but I've split this off into a separate discussion from the original Citi browser filling issue so we can focus on your feedback!

    1) I do not want my vault in the cloud, so I use my iPhone to sync between several Macs and a work PC. However I noticed that some of the login notes get duplicated several times, so I have to manually edit them each time this happens. I assume this was due to the syncing between several different devices. I would prefer a simple NAS/private cloud solution for all of my devices.

    To be clear, your 1Password data is end-to-end encrypted, so 1Password simply doesn't depend on the sync service to protect your data. 1Password is secure by design, not by chance.

    Regarding your Wi-Fi Sync issue, you're getting these odd sync conflicts because every time you disable it to pair your iPhone with a different computer, you're destroying the sync state used to track all of this to prevent and resolve these kinds of conflicts. Wi-Fi Sync works between single computer (as the server) and one or more mobile devices (as clients), and that's why you can only add a single "secret" on each mobile device.

    Regarding other sync options, I can't promise anything, but if you let us know which you'd like us to add in the future we can certainly consider your request as we develop 1Password going forward.

    But another thing you can consider that you'd be able to use now is 1Password for Families. At this time, the main caveat will be that we don't yet have 1Password for Families support in the 1Password for Windows desktop app, but we do have a web interface and a 1Password for Windows 10 beta app to use to access your data on a PC.

    2) I have several logins, old credit cards, etc. that I would like to keep in my vault for reference, but I do not want them to appear with the rest of my items. I could manually move these to another vault, but an archive option would be very much appreciated.

    This is a tough one, because different people have different preferences about this. I suspect that's at least part of the reason we don't have an "archive" feature in 1Password. I actually have two approaches to this myself. You may not like either of them, but we don't currently have any plans to add an official "archive" feature to the app(s) since it would essentially be the same thing with a different name (and perhaps a cute icon):

    • Use a separate vault to store "Archived" items, which can be deselected in the All Vaults preferences in 1Password for Mac and iOS (to exclude it from searches).
    • Use the Trash to "archive" items.

    I know it's ridiculous (and dangerous, if there's a possibility of the Trash being emptied by accident), but I find that the Trash has become a de facto "Archived" for my data, since I regularly dig items out of it. My actual "archive" vault is there for things I know I want to archive, but the Trash has proven incredibly useful in a pinch to grab that old login I "knew" I'd never need again.

    With regard to the OS, I've used them all since Mac OS 6 (not iOS 6, or OS X 10.6, but Mac OS 6). I have't had any unsurmountable problems with El Capitan on my new MacBook Pro, but I prefer to stay with Mavericks for my other MacBook Pro and Mac mini. Maybe I'll give in at some point when the security updates stop coming.

    Fair enough. I think my primary objection in this case would be the old version of Safari on Mavericks, but if you're using Chrome or Firefox that won't be a concern. I definitely agree that Mavericks was a good OS X release. Yosemite was rough, so I was more than happy to install the first public beta of El Capitan. I never regretted that, and it's only gotten better since. I think if history is any indication, you probably have until autumn before the security updates to Mavericks cease. And who knows — the next OS X may be even better. :)

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