Feature Request: Password Generator → more character > 30 [increased to 50 characters in 4.4.1]

Thanks for the vote, @Thomas. :)

Hi, @bguse.

There's no additional information about this right now.

It's planned, @lisinge. :)

@MikeT says:

This is a temporary limitation due to the maximum width we can have in that style. We plan to fix this in a future update by redesigning it to be more flexible.

It's still planned, @theElvis, not forgotten. :)

Nothing yet, @Thomas.

I'm glad you're liking the new Watchtower service in the 4.4 update.

As I don't want to use just 30 chars passwords when I can use 50 chars, …

The benefit of them being that long is questionable, e.g. here's a comment from our security expert's post:

The chances of cracking a random 23 character password (or 128 bit key) within the age of the universe using a billion supercomputers is so small that there there is no meaningful security gain in making it any larger.

Yet we still do intend on supporting 50 character length's 1Password mini's Password Generator.

… my current workflow is as follows:

• Open site, login via 1Password and go to change password dialogue
• Open 1Password mini and copy current password to copy buffer

Are you then pasting it into a Current Password (or similar) field on the site's password change page?

• Go to 1Password main application, click generate password
• Copy generated password to copybuffer
• Abort 1Password generate password dialogue, as I don't want to have lots of new useless passwords in 1Passwords Passwords section

Which item are you editing to do that with?

My suggestion is to use the Shift-Command-E keyboard shortcut with the item you want to update selected in 1Password mini, which will open it with Edit mode in the main application. Generate your new 50 character password, save the item, then copy that new password.

• Paste generated Password to vim/textedit/whatever (in case 1Password doesn't recognize my password change and doesn't prompt me for a password change dialogue)

You'll be able to skip that step, with the new password already saved in the item and the old password one under show previously used passwords. And you might want to disable Automatically ask to save new Logins in the Browser tab of the Preferences window to not be prompted with the autosave window. I'm not sure how you'd be interacting with it.

• Paste generated Password into the change password dialogue

Copied earlier from the updated item.

The alternative workflow would be something like this:

• Open password change page on a site.
• Open 1Password mini and copy current password from Login item you'll be changing it in.
• Paste current password into Current Password field on page.
• Reopen mini for the previously selected item and press Shift-Command-E to open it with Edit mode in the main app.
• Generate new password, save item, copy new password.
• Return to site's password change to paste new password in appropriate field(s).

And with Automatically ask to save new Logins disabled there's no autosave prompt to skip since you've already updated the item. However, it'll be bypassed if you still want to use it when creating new Login items (regardless of how/where the initial password is generated). But you could manually use Save new Login in 1Password mini instead.

I hope that's helpful until it's possible to generate your 50 character passwords directly in mini's Password Generator.

It's always a pleasure to help, @Thomas.

We'll be updating the 1Password 4 keyboard shortcuts guide, including adding newer ones for 1Password mini. And we've got this one for changing passwords:

Updating your site's password

It doesn't cover generating them in the main application, e.g. if you prefer ones with 31-50 characters.

Yup, a workflow that combines filling of current and newly-generated password fields would be handy. @collide007 suggested one: here.

Glad to hear this is awesome for you, @theElvis, finally. :)

Now that this issue is resolved I'm going to close this topic, too.