Secret Key recovery

Marky,
You might benefit from this advice >>>>>I use an app called color note, you can lock your notes with a password & ColorNote automatically syncs notes once a day, and also you can manually sync your notes. Your notes are encrypted with the AES standard before being uploaded to the cloud storage. AES is the encryption standard that banks use to secure customer data.

I use 1password to autofill my log in to color notes, so that gives me the ability to use a random password that no one can guess to "unlock my note">> 434g%^&svb)-svhrhesc!!@34fsf <<< love these long uncrackable passwords and what's better is now 1password seems to have fixed the autofill issues with android.

Of course this >>> 434g%^&svb)-svhrhesc!!@34fsf <<<< is NOT a password I made it up, BUT it is equally as tough.

Marky just a suggestion>>>>>>>>>>>>> but buy a spare mobile device you can get them for 50 bucks or so, and put your 1password info on that in case you ever lose your main device, or it gets stolen. That way you can get back in & have your secret key password and all your important info.

Color note is great, I have used it for years I store my secret key there as well in Bitwarden as a back-up in case 1password ever had issues.

Another great option is Mega storage, I also have my "stuff" there it's great Mega storage attracts customers due to its approach to security. Mega uses end-to-end encryption. All files that are uploaded to MEGA's servers are encrypted on the side of the client,

The platform is totally end-to-end encrypted, which means not even Mega can make any sense of your data. Mega takes privacy and security seriously.

If you are concerned about security with color note, You can also put your secret key in the notes and not add a label to it so no one but you would know what it is.

Hope my advice is helpful.
I know getting locked out, or losing a device stinks, this is just my 2 cents worth to help, so you will always have access to "your stuff" and not get stuck with no way to access your important things again.

I hope this helps.

The problem in this case is that if 1Password itself is not accessible, such as in this case, using other cloud storage services would not help if the Secret Key is lost, and you have no way to access your passwords to log in to them<<< this is the point here, IF you have your secondary device and have your secret key & password "saved" >>locked<spare< device you then HAVE your sign in credentials and can use them to get into your device if you either forgot what it was, OR had to get a new device because the original device was lost or stolen. All you need to do is get into your ColorNote THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR """SPARE"" DEVICE and get your password and your secret key that you have stored in your color notes, you're good to go.

The problem in this case is that if 1Password itself is not accessible, such as in this case, using other cloud storage services would not help if the Secret Key is lost<<<<<<<, The whole idea of using color note or Mega storage, you'll know where it is.

What would be the benefit for the original poster to use ColorNote on that device?<<< it sounds like the OP did not have a back-up device. So, IF they had a spare mobile phone >>a smartphone<<< and had color note on there, all they would need to do is get in their color note open the note that has their secret key / password on it for example

lets say here is their note in color note

MY LOG IN FOR 1PASS
they click the above

and then can see this below

password et4frwyjrbrnh855%&ew1xv_
secret key 43453;-6663-gh7-347-ffbBB

Then just type it in their new device and BAM.... there back in...

it is a great idea, and it works!!

I love color note because Your notes are encrypted with the AES standard before being uploaded to the cloud storage. AES is the encryption standard that banks use to secure customer data.

And you can safely store your info in there and KEEP A SPARE DEVICE for the """just in case"

You are missing my point

That is to have another secure encrypted source to get into 1password. Using color note is no different than having both a laptop and mobile device, both with 1password on each one.

If I understood the OP they had only 1 device, and it was lost/stolen soooooooo gone was all their info. To avoid that, I recommend having at least 2 sources to have all your info available to you so you can get back in.

In my case, I have 3, I have a laptop with 1passwod (Chromebook) and also my android smartphone. I also have color note as my 3rd place to get my 1password info, so I can avoid being locked out because I lost my device.

IF for some reason I can't get into 1 device, I can get in the other thanks to having my 3rd option>>> color note.

For example>>>> let's say it's my mobile device that's missing, I also have color note on my laptop, so I can get into my laptop get into my color note copy and paste my secret key and password and log back into 1password.

This way, should I forget my password/secret key. It is available with colornote as my 3rd option as my backup to NOT get locked out.

You can lock a note with a master password. Nobody will be able to access it without the master password. Even you cannot open it if you forget the master password.

If you sign up for online backup service, your notes will be backed up to the cloud storage. Then you can get access to your notes from other mobile devices. Therefore, you can easily transfer your notes to a new device when changing devices. Even when you lose a device, you can restore the notes backed up to the cloud storage.

ColorNote automatically syncs notes once a day, and also you can manually sync your notes. Your notes will be encrypted with the AES standard before being uploaded to the cloud storage. AES is the encryption standard that banks use to secure customer data.

Again, this is just "another way" to be sure you don't get locked out. IF you have only 1 device say a mobile phone & you lose it, gone is all your login information this is why at the VERY LEAST, I recommend having a "spare" mobile device that has 1password on it so if you lose one device, you STILL have the other as a way to get back in should you lose your one and only device with all your information on it.

For me and my peace of mind as mentioned I have 3 and am very good at being sure 2 fa is on and I don't get locked out. Things happen & I try to plan on that so getting "locked out:" will be less likely to happen.

I also have a .csv file I update monthly (I am sure to encrypt it)

that .csv file has ALL my passwords, safe notes & other information that is stored in my Mega account BUT as I mentioned I encrypt it so even IF someone got past my 30 character master password then got into my mega account they would then need to get past my authy 2fa that I have set up.<< good luck with that!!

BUT IF they managed all that and got in, the .csv file that has all my passwords and information would be useless as it is encrypted. So all my stuff would look like the gibberish below >> the crook would have "nothing but gibberish."

..bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbyb
.bht4gji3rgor3rbr3pb3rg3rg4tgh4ghhg4hg9gth9thu9htbh9t4bbbtb4ththtbybvfetwebh5yuj7u7i8ki75i7k7i56um5y46h5h5j5j77

@kram5819 I understand the need and I have backups of my 1Password credentials, I just wouldn't trust something like ColorNote because the security model is undocumented and certain to be weaker than 1Password.
I would use a dedicated password manager that saves your passwords in a local database like Keepass. The database can be sync'd across your devices using a service like mega, so that it is double encrypted when in transit and when stored in the cloud. You can also use it to import your monthly CSV backups.