Password generator with German (or other) words?

DenalB

I didn't know where to post this because it is a feature request for all plattforms.

When generating passwords with words there is only English language.

I think that I will not remember English words more better than German words because this is my native language. It would be very nice to be able to select the language for generated words.

When searching for this point I found a thread from September 2017:
https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/82258/password-generator-with-words-in-an-other-language

But this was more than 1 year ago. Is this feature still on your todo list?

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peacekeeper

I would even go a step further:
If this is ever implemented, please also make it possible to mix languages which would make it even harder to be victim of a dictionary attack!

Also, please make the "nonsense"-syllabes available that already exist in 1Password X.

DenalB

If this is ever implemented, please also make it possible to mix languages which would make it even harder to be victim of a dictionary attack!

That's a great idea @peacekeeper . :)

AGAlumB

It's definitely not feasible currently. We still have a lot of work to do localizing 1Password itself, and there are a lot of problems with trying to create multiple Wordlists in different languages. It was hard enough doing English, and that work is ongoing, as we continue to tweak it even now. I think that probably German would be less problematic than some others, but then we're still leaving those out -- some of which, not using the Latin characterset, may never be viable. So for now our focus is on making the exiting Wordlist the best it can be, and filling the gaps in app localization.

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AGAlumB

Thanks for sharing! The only real downside is a bit less randomness, and 1Password will also treat user-created/modified passwords as less strong as a result. But in some cases it's necessary of course. :)

jpgoldberg

That definitely makes sense, @DenalB.

We'd love to do it. One reason that we haven't so far has to do with our inability to remove taboo words from such a list. Sure the obvious terms words like "Scheiß" could be purged from easy to obtain lists, but it takes people more deeply embedded in the culture to manage the less obvious ones. We do have Germans working here, but we haven't really freed up their time to work on it. And with English, we are able to find more resources for this as well.

One possible approach is to start with Peerio's word lists. Their lists are designed for slightly different kinds of passwords (things that are closer to our Secret Key which are not expected to be memorized, and only very rarely entered), and so they use longer words than we allow. So we would still have to modify their lists to work for passwords that people are expected to type.

If you take a look at the guts of our new password generator, you will see that it is capable of using any word list. If you are extremely adventurous you might want to play with a pre-alpha-work-in-progress command line interface for that. (It is so pre-alpha and not ready for public consumption that we are only distributing the source).

DenalB

@brenty

So for now our focus is on making the exiting Wordlist the best it can be, and filling the gaps in app localization.

Thanks for your explanation! :)

@jpgoldberg

If you take a look at the guts of our new password generator, you will see that it is capable of using any word list. If you are extremely adventurous you might want to play with a pre-alpha-work-in-progress command line interface for that.

That looks crazy and I don't understand very much of it. This was only an idea of mine and you all from 1Password are doing your best to give us all of the features we want to have. So take your time and try to do what is possible. That's not an urgent wish from me. All is fine. :)

AGAlumB

Likewise, thanks for being passionate about 1Password, and localization as well! I wish we had all the bandwidth to do everything on our wishlist too, but we'll keep cranking away bit by bit -- pun sort of intended. :)

JochenRLP

Is there any update on this? I can live with using English locales but having to remember English words I never use and I do not know the translation is not a good idea. Using only the words I know is limiting the password security.

ag_ana

@JochenRLP:

We have nothing to announce at this time. We will however make sure to keep your feedback in mind going forward :+1: