Help me understand my "standalone license" and what that means for 1Password.com accounts and so on

diitto

I’m rarely this confused but now is such a time. First, a tad bit of background. I started using 1Password back in 2006. Today I still use it and am currently running version 7.3.2 on a mac computer and I also have an iOS version 7.4.4. Bought both separately and have upgraded licenses when required over the years here or there. I have always been and continue today to be a “stand alone” license customer. I am not on a subscription (though I know that day is likely coming). I don’t share vaults through the cloud or such. The vault on my mac was imported from an older mac and from an older mac before that but they were never “shared” through some 1password.com account. And what is on my mac versus what is on my iOS devices are totally separate.

Now I do have a “login” for the following URL,

https://agilebits.com/c/login

with a date created of 5/9/15.

I can’t say the URL was always what I show above (it certainly was as of 5/9/15 but before??) but the login in my records actually goes back as far as 5/10/07, a long time ago. And over that time there have been THREE different passwords assigned to this login (with two different emails of record used as the username) over the years, all of which, the "passwords", I’m sure were assigned by 1Password as they are ALL very long (>30 characters) and they are all strings of numbers and lower case letters separated here and there with hyphens. I can say exactly how long they are but I’m trying not to give away info I should not make public. They are all three the same length and very close in length (but not quite the same) to what I see you publish about the length of this thing called the “Secret Key” which one of your documents says, in part,

“If you purchased a standalone license for 1Password, then you don’t have a Secret Key”

So that would say I don’t have a secret key or do I??? Starting to see the confusion here??

I think these long constructs created I’m sure by you guys (not me) were passwords that were/are (??) related to license keys. I have notes but they get a little vague at that point.

Bottom line and I will stop with this question that is spinning but likely going nowhere useful is,

If I today go to

https://agilebits.com/c/login

it appears to redirect to,

https://1password.com

which, remember, as a standalone owner, I believe that I do NOT or should NOT have a 1password.com account.

For grins, there is a “Sign In” place in the upper right on this page so I clicked on it just to see what fields come up. It presents a window that asks for

— Email
— Secret Key
— Master Password

I certainly know the top and bottom of the above three. But do I have a Secret Key??? According to your docs on standalone license, I do not. But what are these almost as long as what you say your Secret Key length is (in another doc I see on Secret Keys) items I call “passwords” that I have three of which going back as far as 5/10/07 with the most recent showing up 5/9/15???

Help me understand the terminology and get my account clean and understood by me again??? I only came up with this topic after I heard about the forum compromise and started looking at all things 1Password and headed off down this very confusing path.. Help please... Likely will take more back and forth but let's start here...

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1Password Version: 7.3.2
Extension Version: don't know
OS Version: macOS 10.15.1
Sync Type: none

ag_ana

Hi @diitto!

I certainly know the top and bottom of the above three. But do I have a Secret Key???

Only if you are a 1Password subscriber. If you don't have an active subscription with us, you don't have a Secret Key.

But what are these almost as long as what you say your Secret Key length is (in another doc I see on Secret Keys) items I call “passwords” that I have three of which going back as far as 5/10/07 with the most recent showing up 5/9/15???

In the past, you could login to our website to retrieve your license keys (which have nothing to do with the Secret Key). That website does not exist anymore, so you won't need those logins at this point. But I see how it can be confusing since it redirects you to 1Password.com :)

diitto

thanks ag_ana... Very helpful. yes, I do have reference here and there that those long character strings were used somehow (I don't remember how) in the process of retrieving your license keys. There are, by the way, all three of them 32 characters long which appears to be a couple characters shorter than how you publicly describe (About your Secret Key | 1Password.pdf) as being 34 characters long. You can see how I thought these 32 characters deals were somehow related to some Secret Key I was supposed to be holding as such. But NO. You are now telling me I do NOT have a secret key and that you are no longer using these other character strings or the above mentioned website (https://agilebits.com/c/login) to retrieve license keys. I think that correctly repeats what you offered. Tell me if I'm wrong about that.

Thanks much for your help....

Ben

It seems we may be having this conversation in multiple threads. To avoid further duplication of efforts I'm going to close this thread, but please feel free to follow up in the other one if you still have any unanswered questions. :)

Ben