I've used 1Password almost since the very beginning. The fact that it was a native Mac app was one of the many reasons I've supported it and recommended it to others over the years. As more and more competitors appear with similar features, the presence of a native app differentiated 1Password and clearly demonstrated the company's commitment to a good Mac experience.
I do understand the benefits of switching to Electron for the company but there's little benefit for users. I'd even go as far as to say it's a user-hostile decision. It means people need to run yet another memory-hungry application on top of every other app that uses Electron.
I know there's little my grousing will do to change things as it's clear this decision has already been made, but it's a real disappointment. The fact that the first sentence of the beta announcement is, "Mac has always held a special place in my heart," makes this change feel even more disingenuous.
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1Password 7 is still the stable release of 1Password for Mac. v8 is an Early Access (alpha/beta) release on Mac. v7 is alive and well, and even works great on macOS Monterey.
I am using 1Password privately and have a paid account for all my company employees ... and I, too, have to say that I am deeply disappointed of the Electron move. There are apps like Trello where I can understand to use Electron but I want 1Password to be small lightweight without a big memory footprint. Is there a chance to just continue to use 1P 7 until I find a suitable alternative to switch the whole team to?
As an IT consultant, I have long recommended 1Password, and I use it for my own family, gladly paying the subscription.
Starting today I am going to be carefully reviewing the alternatives available for Mac because I will not use an important and frequently used app like this when it is based on Electron, and so far I havenāt seen any indication as to how long v7 will be supported.
Me too, it's simply impossible to make an Electron app as snappy, lean and integrated as a native Mac app. You can put all the polish you want in the UI, it will still be Electron.
I will keep using v7 while I research for alternatives.
The biggest draw to 1P for a lot of users is that itās always (even the ancient crusty Windows versions) felt native. After years of dealing with having to use other electron apps and web technologies, I canāt see too much of a reason to stay with 1P if it will feel like having to ādealā with it as well.
Seems like the change might be necessary to compete in a modern tech world filled with slow, clunky web apps but thatās pretty sadā¦
I've been running v8 for a while now and I'm disappointed. I understand it's pre-release software and that some bugs, like not being able to open website links, will eventually be fixed before release, but the core UX won't change enough for this to be an improvement.
Awkward UI controls, preferences not opening in a new window, no rubberbanding on scroll, etc. The list of things lost because of the switch to a non-native, generic framework is long. I've been using 1Password because its UI doesn't suck, like all of its competitors, but this seems to be changing. It still looks alright and seems to be very performant, but this UI mismatch is a big deal to me.
I downgraded back to 7 for now, but time will tell for how long that will work.
Iām just echoing the sentiment of everyone above. Iām still using a MacBook Pro from 2018. It works great with 1Password 7, but anything more memory intensive will be an issue. For me, the fact that 1Password was a native app was a huge selling point. It started as a Mac app and should stay that way. Iāll eventually upgrade to an Apple Silicon system. Is Electron running yet natively there? Seems like a step backwards if it isnāt. Keep Linux Electron based but Windows and Apple should be coded for and use standard UI elements. Iāve used 1P7 for Linux and it works but is not āprettyā looking at all. If that is Electron, Iād hate to get that on my Mac.
As much as I hate to say it, any glitchy UI or non-native look would be a huge turnoff. For the first time in over a decade I have actually started looking at competitors. If any offer as good as family vault type sharing as I get now, Iād be considering switching.
I am a satisfied, long time 1Password user. But the decision to go for Electron is consumer unfriendly; I really cannot understand Agilebits has made this decision. Especially because the Mac is the platform it started on. One should expect Agilebits to be loyal to the Mac users. It is the big money/short term thinking that hits many companies nowadays. And do you think the Agilebits employees are happy with this move?
I'm pretty sure I will go and search for a native macOS replacement and I won't be the only one...
Few minutes of use and the experience is very disappointingā¦ UI is "webbased" more than MacOS, it is visually uncomfortable compared to previous versions that were some of the most beautiful MacAppsā¦ All that can perhaps be polished until launchdate ? But if you want the same UI for Windows and MacOS then at least one app will be strange as OS UI are different.
Memory usage is a jokeā¦ even with some hard work you'll never get an Electron app that will be lighter than a native appā¦ from 140Mb to 380Mb very quickly. For an app you keep open all the time ? really ?
I was a paying user for around 10 years, I'm seriously thinking about trying alternative tools. If you use non native MacOS and not polished design then only the features differentiate you from the competition.
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I know there's little my grousing will do to change things as it's clear this decision has already been made, but it's a real disappointment. The fact that the first sentence of the beta announcement is, \"Mac has always held a special place in my heart,\" makes this change feel even more disingenuous.
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I do understand the benefits of switching to Electron for the company but there's little benefit for users. I'd even go as far as to say it's a user-hostile decision. It means people need to run yet another memory-hungry application on top of every other app that uses Electron.
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I know there's little my grousing will do to change things as it's clear this decision has already been made, but it's a real disappointment. The fact that the first sentence of the beta announcement is, \"Mac has always held a special place in my heart,\" makes this change feel even more disingenuous.
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1Password 7 is still the stable release of 1Password for Mac. v8 is an Early Access (alpha/beta) release on Mac. v7 is alive and well, and even works great on macOS Monterey.
1Password 7 is still the stable release of 1Password for Mac. v8 is an Early Access (alpha/beta) release on Mac. v7 is alive and well, and even works great on macOS Monterey.
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I am using 1Password privately and have a paid account for all my company employees ... and I, too, have to say that I am deeply disappointed of the Electron move. There are apps like Trello where I can understand to use Electron but I want 1Password to be small lightweight without a big memory footprint. Is there a chance to just continue to use 1P 7 until I find a suitable alternative to switch the whole team to?
I am using 1Password privately and have a paid account for all my company employees ... and I, too, have to say that I am deeply disappointed of the Electron move. There are apps like Trello where I can understand to use Electron but I want 1Password to be small lightweight without a big memory footprint. Is there a chance to just continue to use 1P 7 until I find a suitable alternative to switch the whole team to?
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As an IT consultant, I have long recommended 1Password, and I use it for my own family, gladly paying the subscription.
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Starting today I am going to be carefully reviewing the alternatives available for Mac because I will not use an important and frequently used app like this when it is based on Electron, and so far I havenāt seen any indication as to how long v7 will be supported.
As an IT consultant, I have long recommended 1Password, and I use it for my own family, gladly paying the subscription.
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Starting today I am going to be carefully reviewing the alternatives available for Mac because I will not use an important and frequently used app like this when it is based on Electron, and so far I havenāt seen any indication as to how long v7 will be supported.
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Me too, it's simply impossible to make an Electron app as snappy, lean and integrated as a native Mac app. You can put all the polish you want in the UI, it will still be Electron. \nI will keep using v7 while I research for alternatives.
Me too, it's simply impossible to make an Electron app as snappy, lean and integrated as a native Mac app. You can put all the polish you want in the UI, it will still be Electron. \nI will keep using v7 while I research for alternatives.
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The biggest draw to 1P for a lot of users is that itās always (even the ancient crusty Windows versions) felt native. After years of dealing with having to use other electron apps and web technologies, I canāt see too much of a reason to stay with 1P if it will feel like having to ādealā with it as well. \nSeems like the change might be necessary to compete in a modern tech world filled with slow, clunky web apps but thatās pretty sadā¦
The biggest draw to 1P for a lot of users is that itās always (even the ancient crusty Windows versions) felt native. After years of dealing with having to use other electron apps and web technologies, I canāt see too much of a reason to stay with 1P if it will feel like having to ādealā with it as well. \nSeems like the change might be necessary to compete in a modern tech world filled with slow, clunky web apps but thatās pretty sadā¦
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I've been running v8 for a while now and I'm disappointed. I understand it's pre-release software and that some bugs, like not being able to open website links, will eventually be fixed before release, but the core UX won't change enough for this to be an improvement.
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Awkward UI controls, preferences not opening in a new window, no rubberbanding on scroll, etc. The list of things lost because of the switch to a non-native, generic framework is long. I've been using 1Password because its UI doesn't suck, like all of its competitors, but this seems to be changing. It still looks alright and seems to be very performant, but this UI mismatch is a big deal to me.
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I downgraded back to 7 for now, but time will tell for how long that will work.
I've been running v8 for a while now and I'm disappointed. I understand it's pre-release software and that some bugs, like not being able to open website links, will eventually be fixed before release, but the core UX won't change enough for this to be an improvement.
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Awkward UI controls, preferences not opening in a new window, no rubberbanding on scroll, etc. The list of things lost because of the switch to a non-native, generic framework is long. I've been using 1Password because its UI doesn't suck, like all of its competitors, but this seems to be changing. It still looks alright and seems to be very performant, but this UI mismatch is a big deal to me.
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I downgraded back to 7 for now, but time will tell for how long that will work.
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Iām just echoing the sentiment of everyone above. Iām still using a MacBook Pro from 2018. It works great with 1Password 7, but anything more memory intensive will be an issue. For me, the fact that 1Password was a native app was a huge selling point. It started as a Mac app and should stay that way. Iāll eventually upgrade to an Apple Silicon system. Is Electron running yet natively there? Seems like a step backwards if it isnāt. Keep Linux Electron based but Windows and Apple should be coded for and use standard UI elements. Iāve used 1P7 for Linux and it works but is not āprettyā looking at all. If that is Electron, Iād hate to get that on my Mac.
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As much as I hate to say it, any glitchy UI or non-native look would be a huge turnoff. For the first time in over a decade I have actually started looking at competitors. If any offer as good as family vault type sharing as I get now, Iād be considering switching.
Iām just echoing the sentiment of everyone above. Iām still using a MacBook Pro from 2018. It works great with 1Password 7, but anything more memory intensive will be an issue. For me, the fact that 1Password was a native app was a huge selling point. It started as a Mac app and should stay that way. Iāll eventually upgrade to an Apple Silicon system. Is Electron running yet natively there? Seems like a step backwards if it isnāt. Keep Linux Electron based but Windows and Apple should be coded for and use standard UI elements. Iāve used 1P7 for Linux and it works but is not āprettyā looking at all. If that is Electron, Iād hate to get that on my Mac.
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As much as I hate to say it, any glitchy UI or non-native look would be a huge turnoff. For the first time in over a decade I have actually started looking at competitors. If any offer as good as family vault type sharing as I get now, Iād be considering switching.
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Scott
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I am a satisfied, long time 1Password user. But the decision to go for Electron is consumer unfriendly; I really cannot understand Agilebits has made this decision. Especially because the Mac is the platform it started on. One should expect Agilebits to be loyal to the Mac users. It is the big money/short term thinking that hits many companies nowadays. And do you think the Agilebits employees are happy with this move? \nI'm pretty sure I will go and search for a native macOS replacement and I won't be the only one...
I am a satisfied, long time 1Password user. But the decision to go for Electron is consumer unfriendly; I really cannot understand Agilebits has made this decision. Especially because the Mac is the platform it started on. One should expect Agilebits to be loyal to the Mac users. It is the big money/short term thinking that hits many companies nowadays. And do you think the Agilebits employees are happy with this move? \nI'm pretty sure I will go and search for a native macOS replacement and I won't be the only one...
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Few minutes of use and the experience is very disappointingā¦ UI is \"webbased\" more than MacOS, it is visually uncomfortable compared to previous versions that were some of the most beautiful MacAppsā¦ All that can perhaps be polished until launchdate ? But if you want the same UI for Windows and MacOS then at least one app will be strange as OS UI are different.
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Memory usage is a jokeā¦ even with some hard work you'll never get an Electron app that will be lighter than a native appā¦ from 140Mb to 380Mb very quickly. For an app you keep open all the time ? really ?
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I was a paying user for around 10 years, I'm seriously thinking about trying alternative tools. If you use non native MacOS and not polished design then only the features differentiate you from the competition.
Few minutes of use and the experience is very disappointingā¦ UI is \"webbased\" more than MacOS, it is visually uncomfortable compared to previous versions that were some of the most beautiful MacAppsā¦ All that can perhaps be polished until launchdate ? But if you want the same UI for Windows and MacOS then at least one app will be strange as OS UI are different.
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Memory usage is a jokeā¦ even with some hard work you'll never get an Electron app that will be lighter than a native appā¦ from 140Mb to 380Mb very quickly. For an app you keep open all the time ? really ?
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I was a paying user for around 10 years, I'm seriously thinking about trying alternative tools. If you use non native MacOS and not polished design then only the features differentiate you from the competition.
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