1Password 8 for Mac, Regressions

MattEdwards

This feedback was posted over on Reddit and I found a lot of it spot on. Reposting here, with the original author’s permission.

Hello,

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I feel I owe AgileBits the courtesy to give more detailed feeback about why I initially quickly dismissed the 1Password 8 beta and list in more detail what I am missing and why this release feels like a regression and not an improvement. I tried to ignore the fact in my mind that I am pretty biased against electron apps. So here are my findings comparing the 1PW 7 to 1PW 8 (I highlighted issues I find severe in bold):

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• Local vaults

• iCloud/DropBox and other sync options missing
• Pressing alt doesn’t reveal passwords
• Sorting options are drastically reduced
• Resizing is sluggish
• Categories are missing in the side bar (not sure I like where they moved, please bring them back to the side bar, sections are collapsible.)
• Scrolling does not overscroll
• No sticky headers in list
• Scrolling through a list feels wrong. The inertia is different. The electron version stops quicker.
• Collapsing/expanding sections in the side bar has no animation
• The side bar has no icon only style
• Complex search matching has been removed
• The preference window is not a separate window
• 1Password does NOT lock when closing the window!
• Keyboard shortcut customization is missing
• A lot less options in preferences
• Mini window is missing when clicking the menu bar icon
• Option to customize All vaults (might be replaced with collections)
• Option to show passwords by default is missing in the menu (and keyboard shortcut to toggle this). It is just hidden in the preferences.
• No option to move number/symbol section to the bottom
• Inconsistency: The triple dot menu on an item presents a custom menu with icons, right click on an item in the list presents the same menu in native style without icons
• No right click menu on tags section in side bar
• Non native keyboard navigation behavior in side bar (up/down arrows don’t switch to next/previous entry but just moves the highlight)
• All alerts look non-native
• New object list highlight is sluggish when hovering
• Lots of missing keyboard shortcuts (Cmd+0 - Cmd+9 for selecting vaults as just one example, Cmd+0 is even remapped to something useless)
• RAM usage
• Displaying items in big text takes forever. I first thought the feature was broken! (Interesting enough this is weirdly one of the only places I found where an actual separate window is opened)
• The active/inactive window state does not behave as it would in a native App (compare this to Mail for example: in inactive state the icons are slightly less vibrant, the top bar containing the search field gets grayed out, all these details are missing in 1PW; at least the top bar being grayed out is there in 1PW 7!)
• After becoming the active window, the transition of the grayed out selected item becoming blue again is slow. It is visibly delayed after the translucency change in the side bar
• BUG: When editing an item and then switching to a different one the changes are automatically saved, instead of showing an alert to discard the changes!
• The highlighted state of the "..." menu and other menu buttons like edit is the wrong gray: #EFF4F8 instead of #E5E5E5 and the hover state has #F7FAFF instead of #F2F2F2. Take this as an example of slight inaccuracies, that make the UI feel non native! There are more of these inaccuracies in colors, typography and spacing that make this feel alien in comparison to e.g. Mail!
• There also definite improvements on 1PW 7. The list style in 1PW8 actually is more pleasing than the one in 1PW 7 (with the exception of the aforementioned issues)
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  Now I feel ok again to uninstall the Beta having done my due diligence reporting in what I think about the new version without resorting to my first reaction: It "feels" wrong.
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  It still feels wrong after going through the App in a more thorough manor, but now I can at least show why it feels wrong.
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  I understand lots of these issues can be fixed and some of them are not specifically electron related.

Original link: https://reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/p3k0m3/1password_8_for_mac_regressions/

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Joshua_ag

@MattEdwards

Thanks so much for posting this and testing out 1Password 8.

One of our founders Roustem has some direct response to some of the feedback: https://www.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/p3k0m3/1password_8_for_mac_regressions/h8tcce2/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Additionally the team is tracking this internally.

MattEdwards

Thanks @Joshua_ag I did catch Roustem's comments over on Reddit (didn't realize you guys were so active there!).

It's certainly not the answers a lot of us were hoping for (give Catalyst a chance? Keep the AppKit app alive forever? Pay Apple some of that VC money to improve SwiftUI now? :smile:) but I appreciate that the feedback is at least being heard.

-- A Loyal 1Password Customer since v3

Joshua_ag

@MattEdwards,

I'm glad you caught Roustem's response. I can completely understand hoping for something and being sad that you didn't get the response you were hoping for. I'll let the team know you're still hoping for another alternative beyond Electron, this is not a guarantee that we will change anything, but we are tracking requests internally.

dppeak

Any feedback on support Apple's native Password AutoFill menu? I have passwords in keychain that need to remain there and the 1Password custom password field menu interferes with the system menu. I know your team demonstrated for Apple's extension, but is this going to be incorporated into 1Password 8? If not, then is it dead because of the choice of Electron? I'm hoping for this feature soon! I've been using 1Password since it was first released on the mac (also used it on Windows for a while), and would be really disappointed to have to switch after all these years.

Joshua_ag

@dppeak,

There was some key features missing in Big Sur to get Password AutoFill on macOS to work well with 1Password. Our team filed issues with Apple to hopefully get the necessary parts implemented. As of right now there is no news to share if we are going to be able to add this feature to any version of 1Password.

dppeak

@Joshua_ag,

Thanks for the update. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

ag_ana

:+1: :)