What is the meaning of the number in the upper-right corner of the Watchtower screen?

JetLaw69JetLaw69
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What is the meaning of the number in the upper-right corner of the Watchtower screen? It appears to be a score of some sort, but there is no information about what the scale is or what determines the number.


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  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    Hey @JetLaw69

    So good to see you using Watchtower! It’s always nice to see customers using it to strengthen their personal security (that’s why we built it, after all!).
    The Watchtower score is our secret sauce – we use proprietary algorithms to calculate your score, so we don’t publish specific information on how that score is calculated on your device. It takes a pretty wide number of variables into account, but the gist is: to improve your Watchtower score, address the security alerts it provides, and watch your score rise! It looks like you're incredibly close to a perfect score. 🎉

    Ben

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    Thanks, Ben!

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    You're very welcome. Thanks for trying out the Early Access. Enjoy! 😃

    Ben

  • DancingTableDancingTable
    Community Member

    What is a "perfect score"

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    I’m guessing that it’s 1200.

  • viswizviswiz
    Community Member

    I'm wonderig how to interpret the number and color. Watchtower shows a score of 1141, the color ranges from green to blue and the 'arrow' is at 12 o'clock. I could only guess that colors like orange and red are some kind of warning and green or blue are good.

    Just a suggestion. Switching back and forth in Watchtower the score is animated every time even if nothing has changed. I would prefer some kind of caching, i. e. animate only if something has changed or after some time has passed.

  • XIIIXIII
    Community Member

    Watchtower shows a score of 1141, the color ranges from green to blue and the 'arrow' is at 12 o'clock.

    My score is higher, but the arrow is still at 12:00...

  • XIIIXIII
    Community Member
    edited April 29

    Just a suggestion. Switching back and forth in Watchtower the score is animated every time even if nothing has changed. I would prefer some kind of caching, i. e. animate only if something has changed or after some time has passed.

    I prefer no animation at all; it adds no value (for me) and is distracting/annoying.

    I'm using a professional App, not playing a slot machine...

  • DenalBDenalB
    Community Member

    I prefer no animation at all; it adds no value (for me) and is distracting/annoying.

    I love this animation. 😁

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    What arrow are you guys referring to?

  • viswizviswiz
    Community Member

    The triangle within the circle…

    In this example at 12 o‘clock position.

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    Whoa! That looks totally different than what I have (check the screenshot I posted in the first post)

  • viswizviswiz
    Community Member
    edited April 29

    It‘s probably using a different design on an iPad compared to an iPhone.

    Edit: I‘ve just checked my iPhone 13. It‘s using exactly the same design as in my iPad example above, i.e. colored circle with number and triangle.

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    Weird. I also don’t get any animation (and I verified that I don’t have “Reduce Motion” turned on). Maybe they are doing some A/B testing among the beta group.

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    after the update I have the arrow and the animation. It is a bit unclear what the animation is trying to show. I suspect that it isn’t finished.

  • viswizviswiz
    Community Member

    I'm still wondering what this score is all about. Without some form of scale or legend, the values are hard to understand or to interpret.

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    The values also seem very suspect. All my logins have long, complex. and unique password and my rating is “fantastic,” which seems reasonable. But…I put the beta on my wife’s phone and she (despite me trying to help her) has passwords that are all weak, short, and frequently duplicates, and her rating is “Very Good.” - So now she thinks her password practices are fine, which clearly they aren’t. It seems to me that this is the exact opposite of what the people at 1PW would want to accomplish with this feature.

  • 1Passerby1Passerby
    Community Member

    I agree with the comment above, it is not clear what the scale is…a score of 1xxx out of? 1500? 2000? And how did you get to that number? 1 to 10 or A to E would have been more intuitive in my opinion.

    Also, as pointed in this thread: is the gauge accurate? Why is the arrow in the middle for a “Fantastic” score? And why this choice of colors rather than red/amber/green which is intuitively recognized?

    Finally, the animation feels a bit unnecessary, nice to see the first time, but not every single time.

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    Yeah. It definitely seems like this feature needs more time in the oven. I’m hoping that as the beta progresses that it matures into a useful tool that will help encourage non-geeks to improve their password practices. As it sits right now it seems mostly like a gimmick.

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    I'm still wondering what this score is all about. Without some form of scale or legend, the values are hard to understand or to interpret.

    Higher is better 🚀 As long as there are items flagged by Watchtower, there is further work that could be done to improve the score.

    But…I put the beta on my wife’s phone and she (despite me trying to help her) has passwords that are all weak, short, and frequently duplicates, and her rating is “Very Good.”

    This might be a bit of Canadian kindness showing through. 😅 I agree, some of the value judgements we're currently using may be misleading. We had a similar story shared internally as well. I hope we can take another look at this. 😊

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, folks.

    Ben

  • JetLaw69JetLaw69
    Community Member

    Thanks, Ben. I’ll tell my wife that our friends to the north are planning to knock her down a peg!

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    Thanks, Ben. I’ll tell my wife that our friends to the north are planning to knock her down a peg!

    😂😳

    Ben

  • janukahwjanukahw
    Community Member
    edited November 17

    I am trying to understand whether the score takes into the account total number of passwords.
    Let me take an example
    User A : Has total 10 logins, all of them have the best possible passwords. He has no re-used passwords nor any site with missing 2FA. his score is 100
    User B : Has a total of 10,000 logins, all of them have the best possible passwords. He has no re-used passwords nor any site with missing 2FA. Now my question is whether User B will have a higher score than user A ?

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