Install 1Password.app in ~/Applications

fahlman

I would like to install 1Password.app in ~/Applications. When moving it to that location I receive "1Password failed to connect to 1Password mini". How can this be accomplished? Thank you in advance.

sjk

Hi, @fahlman.

Are you trying to run the Mac App Store or Agile Web Store version of 1Password 4 from your ~/Applications folder? The MAS version must be run from the system /Applications folder. The AWS version should run okay from your personal ~/Applications folder. If it's the latter you've moved please try restarting your system and see if it works properly after that. Thanks!

fahlman

The MAS version. I purchased it right away and now regret not upgrading to the Family Pack through the AgileBits store :(

sjk

Hi, @fahlman.

In general, moving any applications downloaded and installed from App Store to other locations is tempting trouble.

Now here's something that may erase your regret about not purchasing a "Family Pack". :)

@khad wrote

You can certainly share a single copy of 1Password (or any app on the App Store) among a family, but you would need to use a single Apple ID to install and update any app (including 1Password) that you use in that manner.

And from post #2 earlier in that same topic:

… if you have multiple users who share an Apple ID, the licensing terms of the App Store are very similar to our previous Family License. From Macworld's Mac App Store FAQ: …

His full posts there, plus others in that topic, are informative.

If that's not an option you could contact Apple to request a refund for your 1P4 MAS purchase, then purchase a Family license from the Agile Online Store. If Apple refuses to refund we may still be able to help you out.

Please let me know if you need more assistance with this or anything else. Thanks!

benfdc

@Khad wrote:

You can certainly share a single copy of 1Password (or any app on the App Store) among a family.

I’d love to know where Khad got that idea.

Apple wrote:

(i) If you are an individual acting in your personal capacity, you may download and use an application from the Mac App Store (“Mac App Store Product”) for personal, non-commercial use on any Apple-branded products running Mac OS X (“Mac Computer”) that you own or control.

…

a. Scope of License: This license granted to you for the Licensed Application by Licensor is limited to a nontransferable license to use the Licensed Application on any Apple-branded products running … Mac OS X (“Mac Computers”), as applicable (collectively, “Apple Device(s)”) that you own or control and as permitted by the usage rules set forth in the Mac App Store, App Store and iBooks Store Terms and Conditions (the “Usage Rules”). This license does not allow you to use the Licensed Application on any Apple Device that you do not own or control …

My interpretation differs substantially from Khad’s. I see the Mac App Store license as inferior to the Agilebits Web Store single-user license. Both are personal licenses that do not allow sharing of the app. However, the AWS license lets me use 1Password on any Mac, whereas the MAS license only allows me to use 1Password on Macs that I own or control.

I’d be happy to see someone refute my interpretation of the MAS EULA, but that’s how I read it. The saving grace is that (I believe) Apple allows sellers of third-party apps to have their own EULAs:

[T]he terms of this Standard EULA will apply to each App Store Product that you license through the App Store Service, unless that App Store Product is covered by a valid end user license agreement between you and the Application Provider of that App Store Product, in which case the terms of that separate end user license agreement will govern.

If Agilebits wishes to confer more liberal usage rights on its MAS customers than are provided for under the stock MAS EULA, I think that it can.