Change master password on one device (standalone) and it does not sync.

MikeV99
MikeV99
Community Member

Changed master password on one iPad and it does not sync with other devices.


1Password Version: 7.04
Extension Version: Not Provided
OS Version: iOS 11.2
Sync Type: Dropbox
Referrer: forum-search:Master Password Standalone Don’t Sync

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  • AGAlumB
    AGAlumB
    1Password Alumni

    @MikeV99: Thanks for reaching out. I’m sorry for the confusion! Your Master Password is not stored anywhere, so it cannot sync. You can, however, sync that vault's data between devices, and after you unlock each with the "old" Master Password, you'll be able to use the new one going forward. I hope this helps. Be sure to let me know if you have any other questions! :)

  • MikeV99
    MikeV99
    Community Member

    I changed the master password on each device individually so that they matched. Seems like way back when the master password was stored in the chain in Dropbox and only needed to be changed on one device?

  • AGAlumB
    AGAlumB
    1Password Alumni

    I'm glad to hear you were able to set it up the way you wanted! Just to clarify, the Master Password was never stored in Dropbox, at least not by our design; you would have had to have saved it there in a text file or something (don't!) and that wouldn't affect 1Password. When you're using local vaults, there is not a central 1Password database that all of your devices use; each device has its own copy of the data, and if there are sync conflicts that can cause things to get a bit confused. That's a big part of why we introduced 1Password.com accounts. Nothing against Dropbox, as I'm a huge user of that myself, but it is designed for general filesystem syncing, not expressly to handle large databases like we use in 1Password. Cheers! :)

  • MikeV99
    MikeV99
    Community Member

    Dropbox maintains the master copy of the .1password files in its keychain - is that correct?

  • Lars
    Lars
    1Password Alumni

    @MikeV99 Not really. In 1Password for Mac and 1Password for iOS, each device makes use of an internal SQLite database which is the authoritative version for that device. There is no "master" in the way that there is with 1password.com accounts, where the version on our server is the "master" (so to speak). When you choose to sync via Dropbox, the first device on which you do so will write out a sync keychain called an OPVault (or Agile Keychain, in older versions). It will be deposited in the location you select in your Dropbox folder, and thereafter, when 1Password on that device is "syncing," what's meant is that the internal SQLite database is being synced with that OPVault keychain. After that, Dropbox's own sync magic will recognize that a file in your Dropbox folder has been changed, and it will sync those changes from your local device to their server. From there, the next time you open 1Password on another device, those changes you made on the first device will be "pulled" from Dropbox's server and synced with the OPVault on that second device, and 1Password on that second device will then sync the OPVault in the device's local Dropbox folder with the internal SQLite database on that device. As you can see, it's a bit of a three-legged affair, but the copy on Dropbox's server can't really be called a "master" in the sense I think you mean it.

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