I have to leave this "Early Access" forum ...

@KirkMcPike They’re already decided they aren’t going to delay and ship a real app and not a glorified webpage. By all means, express your dissatisfaction—it’s why I’m here, too. But at this point, expecting them to just reverse course is unrealistic. Our only hope is that one of the following happens:

1. They revisit this decision somewhere down the line and bring back a native app.
2. Electron itself sees improvements that make it feel native.

@dteare

See, I personally have come to terms with Electron+Rust+React. While I think a native app would have been better and you could afford to develop it, I also understand the advantages of that stack.

With that said, I find the results so far to be unacceptable. The GUI is clunky and interacting with it clunky. I think you need to spend the next 6 months adjusting and polishing the GUI and really going as deep as possible to optimize things from a performance standpoint. You can change the design language and use web technologies, but windows should still draw and animate smoothly, scrolling should still feel good, and filling passwords should be instantaneous. You also need to figure out a way to put some guardrails around the memory and thread usage. Some additional overhead is tolerable, but 2x is not.

DTeare…

It's simple really…for most of us we're probably willing to accept subscription and the non native macOS app…but many users depend on some of the existing features like local vaults and DropBox. They might not provide all the gee whizzing features that the new corporate policy wants…but some users just might not want or need those features. I realize you're trying to grow the company considerably from it's current form…make more money, get more enterprise customers and all that jazz…and there's nothing wrong with that. However…essentially abandoning features that users want and use just because it's easier for your programmers simply doesn't sit well with some of us.

Each user of the current v7 has some combination of local vaults, online only, sync methods, native macOS app or whatever else that we use…and each user will have some that they're willing to accept and some that are dealbreakers. I downloaded and tried the Electron v8 beta yesterday (8/20/21)…and it's ugly and not very macOS like…but I could accept it if the things I think are deal breakers were fixed.

I don't know ... Dashlane is about the lowest effort Catalyst app you can make. I wouldn't be surprised if they just checked the box and hit compile. But I'll semi-agree. Bitwarden is suddenly a lot more attractive due to its lower price point. It's lacking a couple of features I like, though.

I agree with all the comments above. I have been using 1P for nearly 15 years (I think), and this is the first retrograde step they have made. I do not know enough about Electron to discuss its limitations, but I do know that the early release app is ugly, doesn't work well and has removed some excellent features whilst providing absolutely nothing to mitigate this. I used V8 for several weeks and downgraded it today. 1P should be a facilitating app, not a constant source of frustration and an ugly blemish on my mac ecosystem. Sorry @dteare , I won't be upgrading to V8 any time soon and may well look at alternatives to 1P in the meantime.

Here is the point that I do not get: AgileBits does have a perfectly fine, functional, and pretty native user interface for 1Password on macOS. It is called 1Password 7. Replace the data layer by the new rust core, add whatever few new features remain, and call it 1Password 8?

Nothing to contribute here anymore unfortunately, so I am leaving this forum too. I cannot stand the constant, repetitive whitewashing alongside with a sprinkle of smileys.