Password Generator password length

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  • ag_yaronag_yaron

    Team Member

    Hey @break80 ,

    Thanks for the additional details.
    Are you able to copy/paste into password fields on other websites? It sounds like Costco's "new password" field may be preventing copy/pasting to make sure users know what the new password is by manually typing it. Are you able to paste anything into that field? Copy some random text from anywhere and test.

    If you find that you cannot paste anything at all into that field, this is not related to 1Password but rather to Costco's restrictions on that field.
    When you select the suggested password that 1Password X offers, it does not copy paste, but rather injects the password directly into the field's HTML code, which is why it works.

    Let us know what you find.

  • @Yaron

    Looks like it was probably Costco and not 1Password. I have since used this feature since I had the Costco problem. When do you think 1Password X will allow more characters?

    I have also run into issues where different sites have different rules as to which special characters are allowed and which are not, with no way in 1Password to change to something the site likes with special characters. I doubt adding more flexibility to 1Password is the answer because every site seems to be different. My workaround is to paste the generated password into a text file (actually in OneNote which is always open on my computer), manually alter to fit the site rules, then copy/paste as the new password. That works for me. Thanks

    break80

  • ag_yaronag_yaron

    Team Member

    Hey @break80 ,

    Thanks for the update.
    1Password X allows you to do whatever you want. No need to copy the password to a text editor - you can edit it right then and there in the generator and add whatever characters you want. Simply click the password itself in the generator and start editing :chuffed:

  • That is what I tried first, but was unable to reveal the password. So I gave up and did what I knew would work. In the future I will try again so see what I have not seen on how to do this.

  • ag_yaronag_yaron

    Team Member

    Hey @break80 ,
    Not sure what you are referring to - when you generate a password it is not masked, it is revealed and you can see it fully.

    In any case, we'll be here if you require further assistance.

  • Now I'm not sure myself any longer. When 1Password X suggests a password, it is visible alright, but I could not change it there. I think that is what I referred to.

  • ag_anaag_ana

    Team Member

    @break80:

    If you click on the generated password field before saving it, you can put a cursor there and edit the password right there:

  • @ag_ana and @Yaron,

    OK, I see what ya'll have been trying to tell me. In 1PX, I can click the +, then Password Generator, then edit the generated password as necessary, then copy/paste it into the new password fields. Yes, that works for me. Thanks. break80

  • ag_michaelcag_michaelc

    Team Member

    On behalf of both Ana and Yaron, you're very welcome, @break80. :smile:

  • the password generator that you have screen capped there @ag_ana
    DOESNT seem to be what options i have in my PasswordX extension ? (shows v1.19.0)
    thats the options i would like, and that it would SAVE this for all instances i want generated passwords, so when in the quick' autofill menu generation gives that type too etc...

    (This seems to be what options i have in android and its autofill/add login generation, just need it in Password X )

  • ag_anaag_ana

    Team Member

    @gadget78:

    the password generator that you have screen capped there @ag_ana
    DOESNT seem to be what options i have in my PasswordX extension ? (shows v1.19.0)

    What do you actually see when you open the password generator in 1Password X?

  • grabbed a screen shot ...
    these are my options,

    and what a generated pass gives me ... !

    hope that helps, chrome version is Version 81.0.4044.138 (Official Build) (64-bit) in Windows 7 ...
    cheers ...

  • didnt seem to add both pics there...
    these are my options ...

  • ag_anaag_ana

    Team Member

    @gadget78:

    You can access the 1Password X password generator by opening and unlocking the 1Password X extension in your browser and clicking on the big "+" button in the top right corner of the window:

    The Password Generator entry is the first one in the menu that appears after you click on the "+" button.

    The second screenshot you posted shows that you are on the 1Password.com website instead, not inside 1Password X.

    The first screenshot instead shows you 1Password X in action, suggesting a strong password for you so you don't have to manually generate one. If you are not happy with the suggested password however, you can create a new one that you like by creating one manually in 1Password X as explained above.

  • arrr yes, that way does give the same results as yours, so within password x using + menu.. ..

    so yes that does mean the screenshot was on 1password.com site,
    took me a bit to realise these are different ways in accessing the vault/data.. shame the on site generator options/settings dont match or cross over too, but not too fussed on this as i can see why, as they are two different systems etc..

    but would be great if "1password x in action" within the browser autofill, method would also mirror what we have selected in the passwordx + menu too, giving us them generated passwords

  • ag_anaag_ana

    Team Member
    edited May 16

    @gadget78:

    I am glad I could help :) And thank you for the feedback!

    shame the on site generator options/settings dont match or cross over too, but not too fussed on this as i can see why, as they are two different systems etc..

    Indeed. We imagine most users to use the browser extension or the desktop apps rather than the website itself, so most of the controls are available there :)

    but would be great if "1password x in action" within the browser autofill, method would also mirror what we have selected in the passwordx + menu too, giving us them generated passwords

    The reason why the two generators behave differently is to make the suggested passwords compatible with as many websites as possible (since a lot of them still have limitations when it comes to password length, allowed characters etc). The suggested password should work in most cases out of the box, and in any other case (or when you want to have full control over the generated password) you an access the full password generator in 1Password X.

  • I have a solution for the problem "we're afraid of not savvy users who would set weak settings in Suggest Password and forget about it" :) . You may introduce some timeout, after which Suggested Password settings will be defaulted to the recommended state. And of course the ability to disable the timeout should be also added somewhere in 1Password extension page.

    Normal user case:
    1) alter Suggest Password to weak settings for sign in to a stupid site
    2) forget about it
    3) 1Password restores default recommended settings after some period of time (timeout)
    4) normal user doesn't notice anything and continues being happy

    IT pro user with special needs case:
    1) alter Suggest Password to (not necessarily weak!) settings for some reason
    2) forget about it
    3) 1Password restores default recommended settings after some period of time (timeout)
    4) IT pro user with special needs notices that and disables the timeout

  • Thanks for the idea, @vadimm. Hadn't heard that one suggested before. :smile:

  • A quick +1 to the OP. I've used 1Password for almost 10 years (wow!) and this remains a pain point. I'm a multi-platform 1Password user (macOS, Windows, iOS) so it's even more awkward. Glad to see the 1Password team is actively trying to improve this.

    There are more mainstream web sites that have legacy password length restrictions than you may realize. I have enough that I tag my short 1Password entries so I can keep track of them. Some you might recognize: Air Canada, ETR 407, Nexus, Porter Airlines, Safeway, Sun Life, Wall Street Journal - all have (last time I checked) length restrictions between 10 and 14 characters.

  • nhat_1Pnhat_1P

    Team Member

    Hello @ings

    Thank you for being a great user. We understand that some websites might have their own version of security and requirements, and that is why one of the items on our todo list is to teach 1Password X to read and provide correct suggested passwords on websites provide. Please be patient and stay up to date with the latest version of 1Password. That is the best way to get all the fixes and features we offer.

  • Thanks @nhat_1P for the reply, one point of clarification: I don't use 1Password X, I use the regular browser plug-ins.

  • JBEAN74JBEAN74 Junior Member

    1password generator in the desktop version was intuitive and convenient. One of the major reasons of having a password program is to be able to EASILY generate strong passwords, including the ablity to customize them on the fly. The 7.+ version is the least convenient option I could ever imagine. Fix this, it currently sucks.

  • ag_yaronag_yaron

    Team Member

    @ings This discussion is about the 1Password X extension, not the desktop app and its companion extension. The password generator in the desktop app is found in the same place it always has been, where you can customize and control the passwords you generate: https://support.1password.com/change-website-password/

    @JBEAN74 Can you please be more specific as to where/how you are generating passwords and on which platform/browser/extension are you doing so? What exactly is not convenient and why?

  • StibbleStibble Junior Member

    I have changed up from 1P 6 to 7 and taken a Family sub out. I also HATE the inability to find how to change the password length or configuration.

  • nhat_1Pnhat_1P

    Team Member

    Hello @Stibble,

    You can find the password generator from these locations.

    1. Select the 1Password extension icon on your browser's toolbar > Generate password.
    2. Open the 1Password app > Select the plus icon next to the search bar > Password > Select the password generator icon at the end of the password field.
  • StibbleStibble Junior Member
    edited October 20

    Thanks nhat - I was struggling as I use Brave Browser and couldn't find the extension in the toolbar but have now learned how to pin it as visible. I seem to have installed both 1P extn and 1P X extn (for my Family 1P 7 subscription). Which should i be using ?

  • nhat_1Pnhat_1P

    Team Member

    Hello @stibble,

    Thank you for your clarification. What you describe is the new feature of all Chromium-based browsers, and I am happy to hear that you found 1Password X and the password generator.

    1PasswordX and 1Password 7 are two different products that do the same things in different ways. Some users like 1Password X, while others prefer 1Password 7. For that reason, it is not easy for me to say which one is better, and it is not a bad idea to try them both to see which one suits you most.

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