Same password rated as both "Fantastic" and "Terrible"

Lagerfeldt
Lagerfeldt
Community Member

I'm wondering why the same password (only difference being an added "!" to the "Terrible" rated password) is being rated as both terrible and fantastic at the same time?

It's a 30 character long password, using a mix of lower and upper case letters, as well as numbers and characters. Auto-suggested by 1Password.

The login was saved twice for the same website, the only difference was I added an exclamation mark to the second one, which was subsequently rated as "Terrible" while the first one without the exclamation mark was rated as "Fantastic".

There's no logic to that.

Deleting either one did not change the rating of the other.


1Password Version: 7.6
Extension Version: 4.7.5.90
OS Version: 10.14.6
Sync Type: Not Provided

Comments

  • Lagerfeldt
    Lagerfeldt
    Community Member

    Seems to be related to this bug, or "feature" if you will...
    https://1password.community/discussion/116095/terrbile-password#latest

  • @Lagerfeldt

    Indeed; manually edited passwords will generally be rated less than generated ones. The primary reason for this is that we have a known entropy (randomness) value for passwords generated by our password generator, and can use that information in our calculation. If you edit the password, we have to fall back on a less precise method of rating because we're guessing the entropy. Additionally, as you may have seen from that/other threads, copying & pasting a password doesn't currently cary over the entropy data, which puts us in the same position. And saving the same password on multiple records is likely to cause it to be flagged as 'reused' / duplicated, and it would intentionally be rated terrible in those cases.

    We are looking at how we can demystify this rating process and make it more consistent and comprehensible.

    Ben

  • Lagerfeldt
    Lagerfeldt
    Community Member

    Thanks, makes perfect sense once you know.

  • You're very welcome. No doubt it would be great if we could find a way to make this more intuitive. :+1:

    Ben

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