Item templates don't include login fields

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WilliamD322
WilliamD322
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Most of my credit cards, memberships, reqward programs also have websites and related userID/passwords. Why doen't the standards templates for these items also include login fields? Thanks


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  • Drew_AG
    Drew_AG
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    Hi @WilliamD322,

    Good question! The simple answer is that those are all different kinds of accounts, used for different purposes, so they each have their own category in 1Password. For example, Credit Card items are used to fill credit card forms when making a purchase on a website (or for just keeping a record of your credit card info). There's no username field because that isn't something you would find on an actual credit card. If you have an online account for a website that is associated with your credit card, you would want to create a Login item in 1Password, which would store your username, password, and URL for that site.

    If you'd like to store website login info in a Credit Card item, you can add custom fields for that. However, custom fields aren't used for filling forms on websites, so you would still need to have a separate Login item for that.

    Now, in case you're interested in a longer, more informative answer: There are three 'special' item categories in 1Password: Logins, Identities and Credit Cards. Those types of items are used for filling specific types of forms on websites. Other categories (such as the Bank Accounts, Memberships, Reward Programs, and so on) are meant mostly for personal organization - they help you securely store and keep track of other information that you wouldn't normally need to fill on a website. So, the way Categories are set up in 1Password, you might have multiple items in 1Password for the same 'thing'. Bank accounts are a great example:

    • A Login item can store the username and password you use to log into your bank's website.
    • A Credit Card item can store the details of your debit or credit card so you can fill them in when shopping online.
    • A Bank Account item can store details about an account you open with your bank, like an account number, routing number, branch address, etc.

    Although those things might all be associated with the same bank, they are different kinds of account information used for different purposes, so they each have their own categories in 1Password. If you'd like to group those different items together in 1Password, you can use Folders or Tags.

    For more information about the item categories in 1Password, take a look at this User Guide article: Categories

    That's probably more information than you were looking for, but hopefully it helped to answer your question! If you need anything else, please let us know - we're always happy to help. :)

  • WilliamD322
    WilliamD322
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    Thanks for your response Drew, and no that wasn't too much info. I guess my view of a password manager is little different - nearly all of the items (over 300) in my 1Password have logins and passwords. Every credit card, bank account, membership rewards, software has an onlilne presence that requires a login/passsword. Is it possible to construct a custom Login Item template that would allow a user to keep all the details of an account in one place (such as Login template for a credit card, and one for Reward Programs, etc.)? I'm somewhat surprised that more users haven't asked about this. Thanks again for your help!

  • littlebobbytables
    littlebobbytables
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    Hi @WilliamD322,

    The request for custom categories is a popular one but isn't as easy to implement as it sounds. It's partly about backwards compatibility and the fact that the special categories are hardcoded throughout the code. That isn't to say that one day we won't have custom categories, merely it isn't an easy addition.

    Now you can easily add custom sections and fields to any item but it will still retain it's original category. So you could add all sorts of data to a Login item, so everything that was in say a Membership item is in the Login item, but it will only be visible in the Login items section. Hopefully that was clear but if not please do say.

    For example, with my bank I tend to keep separate items. The data in the Bank Account item doesn't tend to change and I don't need access to it if I'm logging into my internet banking. You may feel differently of course. You will want to keep separate items for your Credit Cards though on the assumption that you find filling in card details with 1Password is useful. That can only happen if you have a Credit Card item (as Drew covered) and the same information in a Login item wouldn't fill.

    I have added your thoughts on this to the existing request. Every vote goes toward helping us make sure we understand the interest in a particular change. We know this one is popular to be honest, it's much more about the time required because of the significant changes.

    If you have any further questions please do ask :smile:

    ref: OPM-1643

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