Any ideas?
All right explain this one - wild.
Tech support for family. Retain passwords for them too.
So brother calls me tonight for his Instagram PW. And I set him up on Instagram long ago. So I open 1PW on my iMac. Search for him - comes up fine. username is this, PW is this. From his end on phone no that's not working. Really? He tries 3 more times. OK. Me, thinking maybe he changed it to what he uses as a default PW for everything, which now I'm thinking I think recall he might have done and told me. Which I would have input on my 1PW file for him -I'm OCD about PW's.
He tries his usual non-secure PW and bingo he says, he's in. So me being OCD, I click edit on my 1PW file for him to update - and as I click edit - I LITERALLY see the PW I have been telling him - change to his default PW. Changed right in front of my eyes. And I don't drink! LOL. This is stored as a secure note by the way.
Bizzaro land I know. Any ideas on this Friday night?
1PW is on iCloud, synced to one other Mac, and iPhone 6 and an iPad mini retina. Always syncing fine over a years. I am a Mac developer running late El Capitan 15A236d and running iOS 9 on idevices. And 1PW has never missed a beat running these. And it still hasn't missed a beat - but - I watched as clicking Edit, the correct PW displayed from what I saw in non-edit mode to something different.
Help me Agile - I'm scared to go to sleep tonight. :)
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@justme12: It sounds like you may have edited the password to update it to the new, more secure one, and perhaps gotten sidetracked, forgetting to hit "Done" and moving on to some other task. That really my best and only guess. :lol:
1Password will save changes you make, and then the next time you view that item's details, it will give you a "Resume Editing" button, instead of just "Edit", at which point the item details will "magically" change to the ones you edited earlier without saving.
You can test this yourself quickly by changing some information, and then switching to another item without saving; when you return to it, you can then resume. I hope this helps! :)
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Did you perhaps look at the record of previously used passwords? It's an idea. Not sure if it's a good one, but that could lead you astray if you did.
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Thanks @brenty - that makes sense. And I can say, I don't delay something when informed. Learned long ago my memory is not that good. So I do believe I corrected this Secure Note when told - but why it displayed old than new is a kick. I did not tonight see resume editing. Only lower right corner Edit which I clicked and "poof" different password in the Note.
Could the resume you mentioned kicked in when I clicked edit?
By the way - I enjoy the search for something like this as too having an issue.
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I take it back. The previously used password record would't apply to a secure note.
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This is the record. As I mage this capture - notice the last modified and crated dates. Old. I DID NOT change anything tonight. Clicking edit just showed the PW. If I changed it today - the date would be today, Why this interests me so much.The resume aspect makes perfect sense other than I didn't see or click resume.
If this were a closed forum I wouldn't have to redact the image.
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Could the resume you mentioned kicked in when I clicked edit?
@justme12: Once you resume, you're essentially "adopting" the previous edit, which you either save, or discard; so it wouldn't show up as a "resume" the second time...which could be a bit confusing.
One thing I hadn't considered until you brought up this issue is that it is very easy, simply out of habit, to click that Edit button in the corner without noticing that this time it says Resume Editing instead. I tested this before posting earlier, and as a regular 1Password user I wouldn't have paid attention to what I was clicking since I know that's where the Edit button resides.
I fear that I might not be explaining this too well, so please let me know if I need to (try to) clarify further. It sounds like you now have the correct password stored in the item. If that's so, I think you should be all set, but I encourage you to Edit another item as I described above to see what I mean, and reproduce what happened the first time:
- "Old" password shown (after editing but not saving before selecting another item)
- Clicked in the corner to Edit (but now changed to Resume Editing)
- "Old" password changes to the "new" one before your eyes
- Click Done and "new" password remains
Let me know what you think. :)
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@brenty - I do think this is the path to this thing - but would me opening this tonight not change the modified date to today?
And I must reiterate - I was watching as I clicked edit and saw one PW become another as I was on the phone with the brother. And even he was what is wrong when I was like WTF. LOL This is what intrigues me and freaks me out. and I do not think 1PW is at issue. I love the search and intrigue of it - being on computers 18 hrs a day and computers love messing with our minds. They are possessed are they not?. LOL As I spend days testing different things.
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Hi @justme12,
I've just tested and if you edit and move away from an item, so there are unsaved edits, when you resume editing and save it does indeed use the current timestamp.
I don't have any answers for you though. I can't say I've experienced anything like this. You mentioned iCloud and I know we use Apple's Push Notifications there. I also know that if anything goes wrong and it breaks down we're not informed of pending changes meaning alterations are not found until certain other actions force a refresh. One of those actions is saving an item as we need to ensure the sync container is up to date but I don't think editing does. It's a Saturday now so that question would have to wait until the Monday when the developers return in force.
It is puzzling.
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