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4 years ago1Password 8 - Non-native feel
Like many Mac users, I was greatly disappointed to read that 1Password is moving to Electron. I firmly believe that Electron is a bad framework for app development, and the 1Password 8 beta does not ...
gussic
4 years agoContributor
I just wanted to circle back. I was (and still am to a lesser extent) very opposed to the choice of Electron, particularly for the macOS App.
macOS client thoughts
I will say that my early observations that the new App was significantly faster than the old one (v7) remains true - it does absolutely run rings around it. I am still very unhappy about the increased system/resource usage and believe that's fundamentally tied to your choice of Electron.
The macOS App is still jarring in terms of design and the way it feels / operates compared with how the old one did, and it doesn't look pretty against other great macOS Apps out there, which is a shame because that used to be a point of pride for 1Password.
Browser extension thoughts
I understand the decision behind going with fully featured web extensions, but again I feel like this is a choice directed at saving development resources and time/money rather than focusing purely on the end user. The new extensions work fine, but again are huge resource hogs in comparison with the older desktop client dependent versions of them.
I really wish you would go back to the old status quo - design a desktop dependent extension that is lighter weight - at the moment you're basically forcing two resource hogs on people (or will be when they get released as 'final') - the increased resource usage of the desktop application and the increased usage of the browsers extensions. With the use of two browsers not being uncommon this resource usage can add up.
Windows client thoughts
The Windows client is much more fitting and a clear improvement on the old version, it is just a pity it had to come to the detriment of the macOS client.
Closing
I did look around, and sadly I cannot find anything that offers the same feature set and simplicity that 1Password offers. I really like being able to store passwords, software licenses, driver licenses, health insurance and the like. The user friendly nature of the editing interface is also very good.
I tried the inbuilt iOS/macOS passwords feature - and to be fair it's autofill performance on sites and apps that support it is far and away superior to 1Password on Apple platforms - but i suppose that's the advantage of designing for your own platforms. Apple's browser extension for Windows just sucks - it is so slow it is almost unusable in my view. If it wasn't i'd strongly consider moving software licenses and driver licenses etc into OneDrive personal vault and using Apple for my password syncing.
I think this is a warning to 1Password in a way though, Apple is building more and more of these features into its platforms and steadily iterating on them, making them more robust and more user friendly. If they touch up a few things and add more convenient vaults for things like software licenses and the like then i can see a lot of people who are primarily Apple users moving away from 1Password.
1Password isn't expensive for what it is and I do believe some of the new features (password sharing for example) are much better than having to rely on AirDrop / SMS / Email but again other things like 'masked email' are just a plain rip off / appropriation of something Apple has already done (which for most Apple centric people is significantly cheaper than using FastMail).
I won't be leaving yet but there needs to be some serious thought given to the macOS client - the way you've implemented Electron is fast, but its a huge resource hog (particularly when coupled with the browser extension resource needs) and it is a clear regression for users that use these platforms. I understand the motive of reducing development time, and cost but on the flip side - we pay you a subscription, if you were to say prices need to increase by a few dollars a year, but we'll commit to using completely platform native technologies for the building of Apps I think that is a selling point you could use and one that many people would gladly reward you for.