Electron

I get the comments about being off. But I will attempt to give some concrete items I. Or cord.

For the How can they (agielbits) make it better?

To be honest electron isn’t inherently bad to me, not particularly my cup of tea. Due to the reasons I state below. It comes as the effects of how the app operates compared to how other apps operate that I consider first class citizens on the Mac.

examples:

TextMate, air buddy, better touch tool, Alfred.

Apps I am more then willing to pay for and have that user experience I expect.

Areas that are jarring:

Windowing - windows are bound to the main window. Including the search. Which is oddly limiting

Mini - context including apps. This was a great addition is now seemingly gone. The small easily pop up window that I could search, pin items without full interaction with the app, add new items. The workflow seems at odds of what you tend to be doing. Before it was help me get there. Now it’s more what item am I looking for when I try and navigate breaks the train of thought..

Local vaults - well,in this case choice? And people are paying. Tell the user hey this is vector of attack and relies on you (the end user) to trust where you save it.and isn’t that true of my home folder or cloud? You can encourage but not having it all is a bummer and loss of control. A very Mac centric perspective this is my computer I will decide where I keep stuff.

The security thing is interesting in the YouTube video. It seemed like analogous to turning off valves in your house for water. The only concern would be it’s implicit that you have tighten areas you don’t want to leak. As to oppose to being explicit and saying these are the only things I want you to do and nothing else. That maybe oversimplification, but just my impression.

Hopefully this is helpful.

Thanks roustem . Having gone through a lot of this thread, I'll hold off till the software is at a testable state to keep testing.

Too many basic things don't work at the moment (I will comment in other threads for specific feedback). Once they do - and no doubt they soon will - I'll check it out again.

I use 1P(7) on ios, mac, windows, CLI. It's been working really well so far - and I'm cautious about what the future holds - given how much vital information I store in 1P.

As neilio mentioned earlier - "throwing everything out and starting again" is a really worrying statement to see. Please be careful!

On April 1st, 2020 we officially put our existing 1Password apps into maintenance mode, opened up our source code editors, and clicked File > New Project… on five new 1Password apps.

The 1Password Core Era

1Password 8 has been an incredibly ambitious project for a number of reasons. Beyond “simply” recreating an entire 1Password client app backend in a shared library, we had other requirements:

khaosspawn The GPU Helper is responsible for GPU acceleration. We are looking at what can be done there to make it smaller or may get rid of it completely.

Comparison of 1Password 7 and 1Password 8 memory usage:

https://twitter.com/mattbirchler/status/1426293055083225094?s=21

As subscriber of family plan of 1password if they move to to Electron, I can say it's a quick good bye.

I refuse to pay for something that runs on Electron...

btw.. since they need to keep iOS codebase why not make it using Catalyst for instance, it would be faster and better than Electron apps (and native!)

Yeah, I gotta say, until Macs ship with Apple Silicon and more than 16 GB of RAM, I'm concerned about the swelling memory footprint of 1Password.

What is 1Password Helper (GPU)? Seems to be taking up a lot of memory.

Not sure if posted this before but this presentation shows how seriously we take the security and the lengths we went to make 1Password 8 more secure. It is a bit technical in nature and goes into quite a few details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5110&v=_P6qI4ahBVk

1P_PeterG

You're right. I shouldn't be able to make spurious accusations and I will respect your request. I was merely pointing out that you have no more evidence to disprove the comment with complete confidence. I understand this is a sensitive issue for Agilebits and will refrain from any further commentary as I know it does not help the situation. Thank you.

@FCNV

With all due respect, you haven't unequivocally proven that Agilebits employees aren't astroturfing here.

You can't be serious. We are taking a lot of criticism here right now, but that doesn't entitle you to make spurious accusations. Nor does it require that I prove that any customer who disagrees with you is genuine. There is no astroturfing here going on - full stop. Thank you for agreeing not to repeat it. We take the community here seriously.