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Swerve
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10 months ago

How did 1Password automatically know my account on a new Mac?

Hello, I'm curious about something I encountered recently... I was setting up a new Mac. I had not transferred any of my data over, but I did sign in to my Apple ID. Upon installing and opening...
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7 months ago

Swerve

Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, iCloud Keychain isn't "sweeping up [your] 1Password info", instead 1Password is deliberately storing encrypted account information in the iCloud Keychain as a convenience and data access preservation feature. The information contains an equivalent to the contents of your Emergency Kit: your account password, your email address, and your Secret Key. It does not contain your account password.

It's also important to remember that the Secret Key alone is not enough to access your 1Password account. Someone would need your 1Password account password in addition to the Secret Key to log into your 1Password account and decrypt the data within it.

Apple's iCloud Keychain is very secure. The data stored in the iCloud Keychain is secured using end-to-end encryption which means that no one, including Apple themselves, can see what's being stored there.

If you wish, you can also enable two-factor authentication for your account to add additional security: Turn on two-factor authentication for your 1Password account

-Dave

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Hello,

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I'm curious about something I encountered recently...

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I was setting up a new Mac. I had not transferred any of my data over, but I did sign in to my Apple ID. Upon installing and opening 1Password, it already had my email address, and just prompted me for my password.

\n\n

How is this possible? I have iCloud Keychain turned off, so I didn't think any app credentials would sync to my new Mac. The last time I installed 1Password on a Mac (years ago), I believe it prompted me for my email, secret key, and password. I was expecting the same thing this time around.

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After some digging, I noticed that the Keychain Access app on my Mac had three AgileBits entries, two of which were last modified on the date of installation, but one of which was last modified years ago, and belonged to a \"com.agilebits.onepassword-ios\" access group. The \"password\" in that entry was my email address. (The passwords in the other two entries were my secret key). I'm not too familiar with the Keychain Access app, but is there where the new installation of 1Password got my email address from? And if so, it just brings me back to my earlier question - why is it there? I thought it would have only been there if I turned on iCloud Keychain. It's a little confusing, to be honest.

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Hello,

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I'm curious about something I encountered recently...

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I was setting up a new Mac. I had not transferred any of my data over, but I did sign in to my Apple ID. Upon installing and opening 1Password, it already had my email address, and just prompted me for my password.

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How is this possible? I have iCloud Keychain turned off, so I didn't think any app credentials would sync to my new Mac. The last time I installed 1Password on a Mac (years ago), I believe it prompted me for my email, secret key, and password. I was expecting the same thing this time around.

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After some digging, I noticed that the Keychain Access app on my Mac had three AgileBits entries, two of which were last modified on the date of installation, but one of which was last modified years ago, and belonged to a \"com.agilebits.onepassword-ios\" access group. The \"password\" in that entry was my email address. (The passwords in the other two entries were my secret key). I'm not too familiar with the Keychain Access app, but is there where the new installation of 1Password got my email address from? And if so, it just brings me back to my earlier question - why is it there? I thought it would have only been there if I turned on iCloud Keychain. It's a little confusing, to be honest.

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Swerve

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Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, iCloud Keychain isn't \"sweeping up [your] 1Password info\", instead 1Password is deliberately storing encrypted account information in the iCloud Keychain as a convenience and data access preservation feature. The information contains an equivalent to the contents of your Emergency Kit: your account password, your email address, and your Secret Key. It does not contain your account password.

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It's also important to remember that the Secret Key alone is not enough to access your 1Password account. Someone would need your 1Password account password in addition to the Secret Key to log into your 1Password account and decrypt the data within it.

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Apple's iCloud Keychain is very secure. The data stored in the iCloud Keychain is secured using end-to-end encryption which means that no one, including Apple themselves, can see what's being stored there.

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If you wish, you can also enable two-factor authentication for your account to add additional security: Turn on two-factor authentication for your 1Password account

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-Dave

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Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, iCloud Keychain isn't \"sweeping up [your] 1Password info\", instead 1Password is deliberately storing encrypted account information in the iCloud Keychain as a convenience and data access preservation feature. The information contains an equivalent to the contents of your Emergency Kit: your account password, your email address, and your Secret Key. It does not contain your account password.

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It's also important to remember that the Secret Key alone is not enough to access your 1Password account. Someone would need your 1Password account password in addition to the Secret Key to log into your 1Password account and decrypt the data within it.

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Apple's iCloud Keychain is very secure. The data stored in the iCloud Keychain is secured using end-to-end encryption which means that no one, including Apple themselves, can see what's being stored there.

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If you wish, you can also enable two-factor authentication for your account to add additional security: Turn on two-factor authentication for your 1Password account

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-Dave

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