Hi, thanks for updating the interface of 1password for windows, i have immediately subscribed after checking, great job. But unfortunately, it is impossible to open a local vault that we had on 1password 7. There are some passwords which we are not allowed to sync to cloud (for work), hence they must stay local, and personal passwords that I want to sync to cloud. It would be very nice if opening a local vault on 1password 8. Is it planned or will not be possible ever? Thanks. 1Password Version: 8 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: windows 10

Hi @benwade Thank you for your interest in 1Password 8. I understand the concern regarding the lack of standalone vaults in this version. In case it is helpful, I wanted to outline some of the important aspects of how we handle your data. 1Password always works from a local copy of your data. Data you enter is encrypted before it is saved into this local database. The database is stored on your computer, and syncs when you are online. This means you can access your data while you're offline (or in the event that we are offline). The Secret Key - This is explained more fully in our security white paper, but the short explanation is that if someone were to guess or bruteforce your account password, that still wouldn't be enough to get your data. The Secret Key provides a serious safeguard against this, and the mathematical complexity that it puts in an attacker's path is essentially insurmountable with current attack methods and hardware. It makes it such that even if someone could steal everything from our servers, they wouldn't be able to access any secrets you've stored in 1Password. This key is not available to us, either, so even in the case of a malicious employee with the highest levels of access, your data is protected. We put our trust in encryption rather than authentication. This is because, in short, "Encryption means that 1Password does not face the kinds of threats a largely authentication-based system would face, and we have used an authentication mechanism that defends against many of the threats faced by many other systems." You can read more about this, if you're interested, in our short guide here: https://support.1password.com/authentication-encryption/ We undergo security audits and pen tests, which you can find here: https://support.1password.com/security-assessments/ In short, we have made 1Password as secure as possible, keep the ability to unlock your data out of our own hands, collect nothing besides what's needed to run the service, and continually have our security tested for weaknesses. One of our founders, Dave, wrote about why we're moving away from standalone vaults and to membership exclusively, here. While of course you are ultimately the final judge of what's best (or perhaps even necessary based on policies etc) for your situation, I hope this provides some helpful context for how we're doing things now and going forward. Ben

I have the same issue as Ben - my employer has strict requirements for where their secrets may be stored, with strong regulatory and industry specific attestations required - beyond the SOC2 that you attest to. If you had a docker container / local server option - even if that server required a phone-home for licensing purposes- that would enable my continued usage of Version 8.

There's a survey in progress here concerning self-hosting : https://survey.1password.com/self-host/

Yep; indeed. Thanks for calling that out, @"J.M"! @"Joshua Samuel" I'd encourage you to participate in the survey. This will help us gauge the level of interest in such a solution, and help us determine feasibility. Ben

1P_Ben Will the 1Password iOS app be updated to version 8, or will a separate version be added to the App Store? I wish to stay on stand-alone, Wi-Fi synced, vaults for now in version 7. I’m concerned having app auto-update on will leave me stuck on the new version!

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Former Member
3 years ago
Wow. This sounds arrogant. Thank you very much for not listening to your users.
PeterG_1P
1Password Team
3 years ago
I'm sorry if it sounded that way, @Lefeot. It's not my intention.

We take a lot of feedback from folks here, much of it passionate, and I do my best to both advocate for 1Password users and assist directly with issues folks encounter.

Out of respect for the community (including folks who may disagree with us) I want to be clear about what we will do, what we'll consider, and what we're not going to do. Standalone vaults aren't coming back. That's an intentional decision we've made for reasons I've detailed and linked above, and which others, including our leadership and security specialists, have discussed in these forums at length.

I mean only to convey this in terms of genuine respect, but the decision is set.
Former Member
3 years ago
That's very disappointing. I've just joined a new employer (one of the largest in the world), and their policy also forbids me from using 1password without a local vault. I've been a loyal 1password customer for many years, but this is the end for me. There's no point in my having a password vault which I can only use on my personal devices. I'm with the others, I think this is a very unfortunate decision, and is going to lose you a lot of customers.

I note enpass.io seems to work the way 1password way of doing things; no sync by default, and sync using whatever cloud storage you like if you want to. Looks like a good alternative, I'll ask my employer if they'd be happy with that. Oh, and it's cheaper than a 1password.com subscription, too.
Former Member
3 years ago
Too bad.
That's the reason why I'm still using 1Password version 7. No upgrade to version 8 possible as I still use several local vaults.
Former Member
3 years ago
Local vaults are an important must have for me. If those became unsupported in the iOS app I would have to switch to a different solution, which I would regret. Up to this point I really liked 1p.
Former Member
3 years ago
I already gave my rant upper and will sadly jump of the ship when 1P v7 will stop being supported. Is there an official end of support date for v7?
Former Member
3 years ago
Sad to know that 1Password not to support local vault. I have a tutorial series about set up 1password local vault on NAS, in the oldest PC magazine website for Traditional Chinese user in Hong Kong and Taiwan for years, and recall the tutorial every World Password Day. I will remove the tutorial since you are not going to support that important feature. 1Password v7 is the best final version for me.

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