Experiment #3 - Nearby Items
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Love this feature. I think the best addition you could make would be to add this feature to Apple Watch. Passwords with locations would automatically appear/disappear from your Apple Watch app main screen as you move around.
A few examples:
At home:
You go to purchase a movie on your TV, it asks for a PIN, quick check of the watch and the PIN is there waiting for you.At work:
You go to a remote storage facility which requires a PIN to access. Quick check of the watch to access the PIN.Picking up partner from work:
The car park has a PIN to access. Quick check of the watch to access the PIN.Visit family:
Father's home has a PIN to access the main door or gate. Quick check of the watch to access the PIN.Visit sister:
Want to connect to her WiFi. Quick check of the watch to access the password.There are so many other possibilities.
You could also create a complication for Apple Watch called "Nearby passwords" (just like your other complications). Add that to the watch face, and one tap from the watch face to access Nearby passwords.
On the phone app, one small change you could make is to hide the distance (shown beneath the password in the "Nearby" section on the apps home screen). I can't think of where this would be useful, as the distance shown isn't going to help us find the items we're close to, and when at home I don't need to know that I'm allegedly 3m from my "TV PIN" and 6m from "Wi-Fi password". It also relies on very accurate inputting of location which is often not possible.
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Thanks for all these great apple watch suggestions @passwordmonkey, we totally agree that Apple watch support would definitely be a great place to leverage nearby items even more.
I'll also log your suggestion around hiding the distance on the items displayed within the mobile app home screen nearby tile. Currently the distance does replace the second line entirely but several have commented that the second line of text on items could provide more useful context than just the distance. We do have some internal concepts around presenting that information differently but no timescale on whether they will be shared further afield yet but we are always looking to improve so welcome your feedback, thanks for taking the time to provide it.
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You should be able to add more than one location to each item. Most of the use cases I have for this are for things that apply at more than one location. Examples could include the wifi password for a business with multiple locations, pharmacy or insurance info to use at a pharmacy with multiple locations, loyalty program account info for stores with multiple locations.
There also needs to be a way to search for an address on the map instead of just scrolling around.
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Hey @TheKnack, thanks so much for the feedback!
Multiple locations per items is definitely on our minds. This is something that we wanted to support at launch but we narrowed the Labs launch to 1 location to stay focused on nailing the single-location experience at the start.
On iOS you should be seeing a search field at the bottom of the map when you're selecting a location. Let us know if you're not seeing that.
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I really like this feature. Depending on your job this can significantly save time. I have a suggestion I'm not sure has been mentioned. It would be really nice to be able to add a location to a Vault. My Vaults are already separated by location so the ability for it to pop up to the top would be great.
One other thing would be for the mobile app to, after a certain amount of time since last boot, to start back on the home screen. Its nice to start from scratch when its been awhile since my last lookup.
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Hi @SaturnsEdge,
Thanks for the great feedback. I'm really glad you're enjoying the item location feature. Attaching locations to vaults is a neat idea, and not one we've discussed; I'll toss it around with the team and see if anything comes of it 🙂
We've definitely heard feedback about the way the app opens to the last used tab. A time-out would be a neat way to choose when to jump back Home 🤔
Thanks again for your thoughts and ideas; keep 'em coming!
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Is it possible to default to supporting Apple Maps since Google Maps is unavailable in mainland China?
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Hey @Definee, great question.
During development we discussed allowing users to set a default Map provider but decided against it for several reasons:
- Using the system-provided mapping provider was much simpler and less prone to bugs than trying to load maps from third party providers.
- The built-in mapping APIs are far more complete than third-parties can provide.
- We didn't want to further complicate an already complicated feature
But your feedback is an excellent reason why we're trying it out in Labs to see when rough edges there are.
Can you tell me a bit more about your platforms and use-cases so I can bring it up with the team?
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At this point so many good ideas, I had thought of the barcode idea but it's already been mentioned. I do have a QR code that comes up when I go to my Wi-Fi settings and I don't know if that was automatically entered for me or if I added it but it's a very useful feature and is along the same lines as the barcode idea. Something I noticed in the mobile version is that when I search for my Wi-Fi / router password, it doesn't show up. I don't know if it's because I added a slash to the description or what (I have tried remaining it t to see if that makes a difference) but when I go to my desktop to search for it it immediately appears. I'm not sure if this is a bug or what the current version. I know it's there, it's just even if I search for Wi-Fi or router, nothing happens. I'll play around with it tomorrow and see if I can identify what it's causing one 1password to miss it. I'll keep you informed. I am hoping the location feature will eliminate the problem. I'll try it. Thanks for all the great work you're doing on improving something that's already near perfect!
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Thanks @gayelpaso, we've got a team actively working to improve Search at the moment so I'll let them know.
We recently released Wi-Fi QR codes so I'm glad you found them helpful. I've already used mine to help family and friends get on my home Wi-Fi.
I'm excited to hear if adding your location makes your Wi-Fi easier to find (it has for me).
Keep the feedback coming and let us know if you figure out any gaps in Search (especially between Desktop and Mobile)
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Every time I enter a particular location that has an item associated with it, when I open 1Password (Android), I'm asked to enter my password. I have fingerprint auth set up, and it works right every other time, but for this one scenario.
Is it possible that geolocated passwords trigger manual login for some reason? It's annoying though that I've disabled location based passwords.
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Hi @jkane001,
This is very strange. It's probably a coincidence because the app can't decrypt your items (and hence read the location of your items) while locked. But we'll look into this a bit further and see if we can find any correlation.
We have been having issues with biometric unlock recently so it's possible that the issue is there and not with your physical location.
Thanks for letting us know 💙
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I do get prompted to re-auth a lot (I've got it set to never require it), but always with fingerprint. It's only when approaching a location with items associated that the prompt is for the full password (and especially painful cause I'm in my car about to enter my storage facility)
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Happy to enable it again with any logging to help troubleshoot
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I sure do - and I'm connected to it each time that happens, so that seems like it's related then.
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I'm very excited to try this feature! I just enabled it. Want to echo the many people who asked for multiple locations. For instance, one main use case I want to try is saving my library card there. It has a barcode which I scan at a machine to check out books. That way I don't have to carry the actual plastic card or keychain tag. However, the library has many branches, several of which I use regularly.
Similar for my gym which has 2 locations - I know others mentioned that use case. For that one, since there are just 2, I duplicated the entry and put one location on each copy; that works okay because the gym doesn't have a password, it's just a barcode, but the library has a password (for the online catalog) and this doesn't scale well for many locations.
I'll follow up once I've had a chance to actually use it some more! Thank you 1Password team for doing this!
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@dbalpert Thanks for giving nearby items a try! The library card and gym locations feedback is definitely on par with what we're hearing and i'm grateful you've taken the time to come and let us know you're putting it through its paces!
It has a barcode which I scan at a machine to check out books.
Are you scanning this from 1Password? I wonder if you might benefit from a similar ability to our recent updates to have a QR for Wi-Fi, but in your case, displaying a membership QR/Barcode, or even image if its a unique barcode graphic.
Do keep us posted, excited to hear more!
PS. If you get a notification about me removing your comment it's because for some reason your comment showed up twice so I zapped the second one.
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Thank you, @Doodler_Benji!
Are you scanning this from 1Password? I wonder if you might benefit from a similar ability to our recent updates to have a QR for Wi-Fi, but in your case, displaying a membership QR/Barcode, or even image if its a unique barcode graphic.
I’m intrigued! Where do I read more about or access this feature? A quick search didn’t make it appear.
What I’m doing is taking a picture of the back of the card, which has the barcode, and attached that photo as an attached file. Then at the checkout machine I can pull up the item in 1Password, open the attachment image, zoom in to make the barcode big, and hold it up to the scanner.
The same goes for the gym membership, and I’ve done this with a supermarket loyalty card also though at most supermarkets you can type in your phone number so it’s not needed there as often.
A feature to make the barcode more explicitly stored - and easy to bring up when in the relevant location - as opposed to having a picture would be neat. They are all just regular barcodes (the kind with the vertical lines, not a QR) as far as I can tell, so I guess they ought to be able to be stored as a number and then rendered as bars, though I can’t say if building that logic is a worthwhile thing or not.
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@dbalpert This should take you through the steps for a QR code for your Wifi (Wireless Router Item in 1Password). You'll need to have a network name, and password.
https://support.1password.com/wifi-qr-codes/
What you're describing is great opportunity for membership items to work a little harder, now while I cannot say what is or isn't doable, I am sharing this feedback with the team who work amazing things with our item management - so letting them know.
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Got it - yes, I saw the WiFi QR code. I misunderstood if you said that ability for memberships was now there - I see you were asking if something analogous to the QR feature would be useful, and yes, I think it would be. Appreciate everything you all do!
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Appreciate you, @dbalpert !
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This feature hasn't worked once for me. Perhaps my zip code 23901 is too remote?
1Password for Android 8.10.54 (81054013)
Android version 13
Browser DuckDuckGo
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Hey @Curt2Go 👋
I'm sorry that Nearby Items isn't working for you. Being remote shouldn't be an issue as long as your mobile device has a working GPS.
You should see a checkmark in Settings > Labs > Add locations to items.
Then you can edit an item and add a location.
When you're physically close to the location you added to the item, that item should appear in the Nearby tile on the Home tab (you may need to adjust the search distance).
If you don't see the Nearby tile, tap the Pencil icon to customize your Home tab and add it.
Labs Add a location Nearby Customize Home 
Let me know if that works for you, or if you're still having trouble.
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