Where to find backup data on Time Machine

liamturner

Hi there,
Unfortunately had to 'Erase and Install' HD on Macbook. Where can I find the backup data on Time Machine to get 1Password up and running again?
Thanks

littlebobbytables

From one of their knowledge base entries:

The AgileBits store version of 1Password 4 stores its data in a different location from the Mac App Store version.

AgileBits store version:
~/Library/Application Support/1Password 4

Mac App Store version:
~/Library/Containers/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agilebits.onepassword-osx-helper

MikeT

Hi @liamturner‌,

Were you able to find your backups using littlebobbytables's helpful info?

red sky

I'm also curious about how to find and utilize my 1Password backups.

I tried putting this into a browser, but it just brought me back to this thread.
~/Library/Application Support/1Password 4

Where to you drop in that text?

Drew_AG

Hi @village789_gmail,

Sorry for the confusion! That is a file path for a location on your Mac, not a web site. The ~ (tilde) symbol indicates your Mac user folder. So in order to navigate to ~/Library/Application Support/1Password 4, you would start by opening going to the Finder and opening your Mac username folder (located in Macintosh HD/Users/, or there should be a shortcut you can click on the left side of a Finder window). From there, you would go to Library > Application Support > 1Password 4.

Alternately, you can go to the Finder and click the Go menu, then select Go to Folder. Copy and paste the file path (including the ~ symbol) into the Go to the Folder box and click Go.

But there's actually an even easier way to find your 1Password backups! From the 1Password app on your Mac, go to the menu for 1Password > Preferences, select the Backup tab, then click the Show Files button.

I hope that helps! Please let us know if you have more questions about that.

red sky

Thanks for explaining how to find the backups. I can see the list (see attached screenshot) but how would I utilize them. Let's say my desktop computer and wifi crash and I want to back up my zillions of passwords onto a new system. Is that possible? How does it work?

littlebobbytables

Hi @""red sky"

Love the name by the way :wink:

Let's cover a couple of different scenarios.

The backups we make, which may be as often as daily depending on changes in your vault (no point making a daily backup if nothing has changed in a week), these will only help you if you accidentally deleted something, a sync went horribly wrong or a freak corruption has rendered the current vault unusable somehow. In situations like these you can simply restore one of these local backups.

Now if the entire disk fails these backups are useless but then this applies equally to anything you had on the computer at that point. This is where something like Time Machine comes in - the external backup.

If you do a full restore from Time Machine then the entire 1Password support file structure would be restored and you wouldn't need to do anything, The worst case scenario might be might have to download the actual application again depending on whether Time Machine is backing up the /Applications/ folder (which by default it does do).

Now if you want to perform a selective restore for whatever reason that's fine too. Now as you're one of our Agile Web Store (AWS) users you would need to launch Time Machine and then the folder you are really interested can be located at the path you posted earlier, ~/Library/Application Support/1Password 4

Here's where my knowledge dips a little I'm afraid. I know if you open the Time Machine app you have in your /Applications/ folder it will do its little animation and you'll be presented with a Finder window. If I click on my user account in the sidebar (which is the equivalent of the ~ in the path) I can then see my Library folder, then I can see Application Support and so on. Now I do have my Library folder visible which it isn't by default. That's a little something Apple added when they decided the average user didn't really need to know they even have a Library folder. So I wish I could say exactly what it would look like for you but I'm not entirely sure. One easy was is to take a peek and see what you find. If you can open Time Machine and you can navigate to a 1Password folder in ~/Library/Application Support/ then you know you can do it again and you're good to go. Now you can selectively restore a single backup or you can restore the whole folder at that point.

If you have any questions arising from any of that please do ask :smile:

red sky

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I don't need a backup now, but I'd like to know what to do if I do need it and in a panic.

BTW, I do have Time Machine backing up everything every hour.

Following your instructions on a Mac desktop brings me to the Settings screen (see attached screen shot).

Let's say I need to access a changed 1Password record, how do I enter a recent backup?

littlebobbytables

Hi @red sky,

This is one area where would could be a little more elegant but for the moment, the only way to access a single record would be to restore the entire database back to that point in time. The reason is the whole database is backed up rather than as individual records.

Say you knew a backup contained something now lost and you wanted it back, in a case like that I would recommend the following.

1. Create a brand new backup for restoring later.
2. Restore the old backup (you do this by selecting the specific backup at which point the Restore button becomes enabled)
3. Retrieve the item in question, either by recording the one bit of information you need or exporting the item (or items) using our open .1pif format.
4. Restore the backup created in step 1.
5. Import the .1pif file created in 3 or manually add/alter if you just needed one small bit of information.

Hopefully the steps don't seem too bad :smile: