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nullptr7
7 days agoNew Contributor
1Password fails to provide applicable password for some well known sites with requirements
I have commented / started a discussion in the past but it is now becoming a regular affair for me to correct the password created by 1Password as it simply not able to generate the password as per a website's requirement.
Check for instance VFS Global (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFS_Global) website (this is one of the most well known passport administration outsourcing companies for governments and diplomatic missions) Basically this website helps you apply for a visa for e.g. Schengen Visa from your home country to Europe.
If I try to register it has a strict requirement for a password for e.g. (https://visa.vfsglobal.com/gbr/en/nld/register)
The "smart" suggestion is completely wrong and I have to constantly refresh to achieve the desired format. At one point I simply give up and just replace the invalid symbol and add one of the approved ones.
Same is the case for another well known website TLS Contact
Now, I do not want to get into a discussion that the password randomness or security will be a concern as mentioned in the replies from
Request for a powerful pasword generator. | 1Password Community
1Password Password Suggestions could be better | 1Password Community
https://old.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/1bocryy/1password_feature_missing_or_am_i_missing_the/kwt1apq/
The reply from reddit by one of the employees of 1Password quotes
This can sound unintuitive, but a 25-character random password with no restrictions on its composition is stronger and harder to crack than a 25-character password where 6 of those characters must be digits and 4 must be symbols.
I agree on this but stronger and harder is really subjective. Literally 15-character passwords even with requirements are already strong and hard take for instance the below password generated from Roboform (I really like the idea how Roboform has done, where user provides which symbols to include)
This is the strength of the above password
Notice there are 2 symbols, surely if I replace one char with a symbol it will greatly improve.
Now, if I now use 1Password and generate a 15-character password
Below is its strength
Agreed 2 Billion (Roboform's 2 symbol) <<<<< 4 trillion (1Password's 3 symbol) but surely both these passwords are STRONG and HARD enough to crack. I am confident that many users (including myself) can live with password with 2 billion years to crack if their password manager is able to generate the password as restricted by a website and avoid spending tedious time getting the password right.
All I am suggesting is have an option to select some symbols(similar to roboform) like the ones applicable and have the password generate for me. It should be an optional requirement where if user selects this feature then it mandatory for the user to provide the symbols they want and then password be generated accordingly.