Electron

Hi folks! While I'm sure other, more experienced 1Password folks will be better able to discuss specifics when it comes to design decisions, I just want to say I'm happy to pass on to our developers any issues you encounter with the app or aspects of it you find don't meet your standards.

With that said, I'd highly recommend trying out 1Password 8 (either in Early Access, keeping in mind that it's a preview build, or the Stable version, when it comes). We set out to meet and exceed expectations here - we're a group of people extremely dedicated to privacy and security, want the apps to go fast, look good, and "just work" - so I'd be very interested to hear how the actual experience of 1Password 8 matches up to your expectations.

10000%. 1PW8 now feels like I'm using a web app, which is not what I've been paying for and championing for the last decade. The native experience was a main driver behind my usage. Plenty of other alternatives exist if I were fine using a "good enough" web app. I hate this. It's awful.

We set out to meet and exceed expectations here

I'm sure based on (past) experience many customers expect you to deliver best-in-class native Apps...

(for example: being a 2021 Apple Design Award finalist; I wonder whether Apple will consider you ever again while using Electron)

On my system the renderer for 1Password is using 25 MB of RAM.

On my system (with a single account):

• 1Password: 80 MB
• 1Password Browser Helper: 12 MB
• 1Password Helper: 9 MB
• 1Password Helper (GPU): 118 MB
• 1Password (Renderer): 49 MB

But to be honest: I have no idea how much 1Password 7 used...

“The first-class Mac client with native UI is one of the reasons I picked 1Password over competitors. Not just because of efficiency, because also because of how it looks and behaves.” (jwells1989)

This.

I don’t want cross platform. I want a great Mac client. The day you stop offering that is the day my subscription will get cancelled.

Honestly I couldn't care less about performance. The app now doesn't behave or look like a Mac app. It doesn't feel good to use. I don't see now how 1password differentiates itself from all the other electron password managers.

It feels just like teams, discord, vscode. 1password used to in the same category as Nova, Things, Fantastical, Ulysses. Great native apps, with exemplary UI and UX.

Tried out version 8 briefly. So I know it’s early access but all features are gone. 1Password mini particularly basically got gutted. Is there plan to add some if not almost all of the functionality back?

Yep, just terrible all around. XIII this is how 1Password 7 is currently behaving on my Mac, with the main app "not running" i.e. only the background app is running. No open main window.

I've just check 1PW 7 for comparison and it used 109 MB of RAM and utilized only 5 threads. This is with two different accounts (business & private), inside them dozens of vaults with a bit over 2000 entries, in total. In addition the 1PW 7 built-in Safari extension consumed only 17.5 MB RAM in total (1Password Extension Helper + 1Password (Safari)) and used 8 threads. Adding these two ends up in 126.5 MB RAM and 13 threads in total.

On the very same Mac 1PW 8 consumes over 215 MB of RAM and uses overall 63 threads during the first start, when there was not a single account added to the app, meaning that it only showed the "Welcome to 1Password - Sign In" dialog and nothing else. After adding my two accounts to the app, the memory consumption has been raised to 275 MB, while the thread count did not changed noticeably. The new 1Password Safari extension (v2.0.6) consumes 176 MB of RAM and using 7 threads. These ends up together in 451 MB RAM and 70 threads in total.

But apart from the memory usage and the thread count, the overall performance feels sluggish at best on my late 2019 MacBook Pro 16, when running natively under macOS 11.5.1. From time to time spins up the fans of my Mac, while the 1Password app end up in the top of the most energy consuming apps in the Activity Monitor. Moreover trying it out in a macOS 12 VM in Parallels, the performance is simply unbearable. I had to wait around 3 to 5 seconds(!) to see any reaction in the app when clicking on an entry in the list, even after several app restart, and OS restart, when nothing else has been running. I'm not sure what's happening in this case, but 1PW 7 performed well in the same VM.