Electron

This is extremely disappointing, and dramatically reduces 1Password's comparative advantage for discerning users over the many alternatives. It isn't just about performance (though resource leakage and energy inefficiency remain big issues even if individual benchmarks are "fast"), but even more about native behavior and full platform integration. Does all automation, accessibility, window management, etc. just work? I have never seen an Electron app come close, and this doesn't seem to be an exception.

Also seeing the exact same issue - 1P7 used far less system resources from what I can see. I loved using 1P so much, it really frustrates me to see it taking a step backwards by using Electron, forcing browser extensions that are needlessly bloated over the original versions etc.

Count me in as another decade-long customer who's disappointed in this change.

Resource usage can be an issue, but it's certainly possible to address, like how Slack was finally able to get memory use down from multiple GB to hundreds of MB with a major engineering effort.

However, what concerns me the most is that this indicates a product direction of breadth versus depth.

For example, taking Slack as an example: while many users have multiple workspaces they need to join, the app has no concept of multiple windows. Like 1Password 8, even opening preferences completely blocks all chats. It's horrible if you're helping a colleague with a question on preferences! Prior chat platforms all had ways to pull channels or chats into separate windows, which Slack (like many Electron apps) completely misses out on. As well, for some reason Slack can't use the macOS spell checker, which means custom words don't carry over. Their support said it was a "limitation of the platform Slack is built on", which of course means Electron. How many of these types of issues will 1Password face with this rewrite?

If anything, I would have expected that the direction would be more, not less native apps. Build a SwiftUI app for macOS! Build a UWP app for Windows! Build a GTK / QT / whatever is great over in Linux-land for those users. Electron should be the "escape hatch" to allow the web UX to work locally for low-use platforms, not the primary target for (what I assume still is) the primary platform.

One more note: our team at work is planning on migrating from LastPass to something else, primarily due to UX issues. In initial discussions, 1Password was a leader due to it's great native apps on iOS and macOS, which is what most of our team uses. With this change, our evaluation will change from "a leader and challengers" to a set of equals competing very much on price, and not quality.

100% agree deviantintegral I know this is only EA, so I'm not panicking yet, but to be perfectly frank this could well be the difference between continuing with 1P or transitioning to the improved password manager Apple has built natively into (mac/i/iPad)os - I don't understand why a company with such a long history of macOS first Apps would descend into the dumpster fire that is Electron Apps - it is really really sad.

At a time when Apple and Microsoft and baking more advanced password managers directly into the OS you would think 1Password and AgileBits more broadly would be concentrating on using the best technologies to build the BEST native apps for each of the respective platforms. Using Electron does not allow that.

Hi, just wanted to add my disappointment. I've already downloaded a few alternatives to 1Password to play around with today, despite being a user for a decade.

RAM isn't really an issue for me, but the weird non-native feeling is. It doesn't feel like a good Mac citizen, and that makes all the talk about this being built as one feel disingenuous. Even the scrolling behaviour is off!

I'm always on the side of biting the bullet and upgrading my apps even when they make a big change, I never stick around on old versions. And so I think I'd feel better with an alternative app altogether, as I really don't like web apps.

I’ve started to look as well. If they continue with an Electron app, I will not stick around. Hopefully, they will reconsider, but considering the new direction of the company, I don’t see that happening.

My subscription was set to renew in October but I went ahead and just canceled. I was paying AgileBits for an experience and that experience is changing with v8. While it won't completely replace 1Password, Apple is upgrading the password management experience with macOS Monterey and iOS 15 and that will serve just fine for me. I was easily able to export passwords from 1Password in CSV format and import them via System Preferences.

@octanes_dunks

"export passwords from 1Password in CSV format and import them via System Preferences."

Does that work for TOTP as well?

gussic Foolishly I didn't import mine but this Reddit comment mentions that it's possible!

Can anyone recommend a better alternative? Is bitwarden finally on par with most features?