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4 years agoSuper Contributor
Electron
This discussion was created from comments split from: 1PW8 for macOS.
- Former Member
I'm a developer so I have usually 2-3 browsers open. Look at the thread and ram usage of the beta ... Here I was upset about them removing local vaults. This is awful.
Edit more issues with the electron app
- Because it's an Electron app, I'm unable to use 1password on two desktops. Activating the quick menu jumps you to the space the Electron Renderer is on.
- I am unable to tab down menu's
- Touch ID doesn't automatically activate when opening 1password.
- No local vaults
- No icloud syncing
- gussicContributor
I’m finding the same issues with the menus being unable to exit the bounds of the App. Also having the same issues regarding TouchID not automatically activating.
- Former Member
I echo everyone else's thoughts here. It's not one single problem, but the huge breadth of paper-cuts you feel when using a non-native app. A single window, dropdown being cut off, spell check not working etc. This isn't just about a few megabytes of ram being wasted, this is abandoning some of the original principals that 1Password was clearly originally founded on.
I was forced to use LastPass by my old employer, and all those same complaints I had will now be true of 1Password. A sad day indeed.
I won't be renewing my subscription, and will be leaving completely when version 7 of the app stops working.
- Former Member
Say NO to Electron apps
- Former Member
There's another issue here. Dave clearly states in "https://blog.1password.com/1password-8-for-mac-is-now-in-early-access/" that: "Our new 1Password apps are built in Rust, a secure systems programming language famous for its performance and safety. 🦀" -- and stating it this way makes 1Password (and Dave) appear, at the very least, disingenuous.
It may not say that it is using Rust exclusively, but this shift to mediocrity in the form of Electron is incredibly disheartening.
As someone who has used 1P since it came out, and recommended it to tens of thousands of people, I feel quite let down by this Early Access preview. Abandoned.
Please reconsider, 1Password, please listen to the concerns of the community and your macOS based advocates who want to see full integration with their native OS of choice, rather than having to settle for this bland and frustrating solution.
- Former Member
Just commenting to agree with the others in this thread disappointed with the use of Electron for 1Password 8 for Mac for reasons already mentioned. I'm trying to give 1P8 for Mac EA a chance but I've been getting increasingly annoyed with how it now behaves due to being an Electron app.
I've been a user since 2008 and preferred using the standalone versions. However, I was OK with moving to a subscription due to 1Password being a great native macOS app, but now... well, if it continues down this path I guess its time to start looking into alternatives. I also use 1Password on Windows and while I appreciate that the Electron app is an improvement over the old Windows app, my main OS is macOS and having the macOS app experience worsened is not acceptable to me.
Hopefully a native 1Password app for macOS makes a return, even if we have to put up with an Electron app interim version like what happened with Arq Backup version 6, since in that case we can at least (probably) continue to use the native 1Password 7 app in the meantime.
- Former Member
This is an enormous letdown.
1Password stuck out as having the best experience on each platform, and it got so many features for free just by being native. It was responsive, intuitive, and felt at home everywhere.
@henrys summed it up perfectly: "it's not one single problem, but the huge breadth of paper-cuts you feel when using a non-native app.
I'll be renewing my subscription (purely because I'm not willing to suffer the headaches of migrating my family to a new password manager) but I'm exceptionally unhappy about this decision and won't be recommending it anymore. If even my non-technical partner can feel a difference, its not a good experience.
If the goal is maintaining fewer discrete apps, then all of us would be happier if we knew this was just a stop-gap solution until, say, an eventual SwiftUI rewrite that unifies the Mac, iOS and iPadOS apps... right? Please?
😢 - Former Member
Not much new to add, but just wanted to add my voice to the disappointment over the direction of 1Password.
So far I've only very briefly used version 8, but it immediately seems like a regression. The look and feel of the app had taken a significant hit. The a coupe of things that stood out for me were:
- The jankiness of the scrolling (no more rubber banding, although funnily enough the website does)
- Non-standard ui elements (preferences pane obviously leapt out, but generally it looks and feels like a webapp).
I've always been happy with 1password, having been using it for the last 10 years (!). One of the things that has kept me with 1Password has been that it was a native app, with the performance and look and feel that comes with it. Always put AgileBits up there with Panic as developer who understood the importance of quality Mac Apps; it's sad to see them move away from that.
This leaves me in a bit of a bind; given the direction that 1Password is moving in I don't really want to subscribe, but there are no real native alternatives...
- Former Member
Even if they do reverse course, which they won’t, it shows a serious lack of respect for their Mac user base. I’ve never met a single person that liked using Electron apps on macOS. I’ve never met a single Mac dev that actually wanted to use Electron either. The fact that they thought users would be fine with the change shows they really don’t know their users or if they knew their users wouldn’t like it and did it anyway, it shows they no longer care about us as users.
- Former Member
Here’s the only thing 1Password obviously cares about
Your move 1Password. I will not pay $60+ dollars a year for electron bloatware.