Electron

phoenix1386 relax. There weren't any insults.

@stylefrybread

For what 1Password is charging (which I've so far been happy to pay), they shouldn't be cutting corners or offering less from one version to the next.

Which part of "early access" and "alpha version" did you not understand?

@Cafeine - thanks for the feedback! The Safari extension issue is, unfortunately, an issue with Safari 14, one we can't fix. It IS fixed in Safari 15 and if you are the type of person who runs beta versions of OS as well as apps like ours, you will notice the difference immediately. As to the rest, as roustem and other colleagues have said here and elsewhere over the last couple of days, stay tuned. We're working on many of those. Thanks again for the evenhanded tone and the willingness to see how this early access version evolves. :)

As a software developer that uses a bunch of (electron) apps in parallel for day-to-day work, I'm quite unhappy with the decision that 1Password 8 goes on that path with the electron as well. Most of the comments here are oriented to the 1Password as a single piece of software. To me, it looks like everyone forgets that 1Password should be a side app, that quietly works in the background and not something eating nearly double RAM and GPU.

Try to look at this in a way that for daily work most of us have to use Slack, Figma, VSCode, ... (all electron-based apps). Little by little I'm starting to experience fan speed up, mac getting hotter and sometimes everything slows down. It's not about "that one" app, but about adding the 1Password to the pile.

As I'm quite sure that there is no time/money to entirely rewrite everything back again to work natively, I'm afraid that I'll have to migrate my family plan to something else...just still not sure to what as the main reason for choosing the 1Password was the native macOS app.
Keep in mind that there are still some users that are keeping an eye on native vs non-native apps and that want to run as many native apps as possible to keep the overall machine fluid and happy :)

@Lars

The Safari extension issue is, unfortunately, an issue with Safari 14, one we can't fix.

The Safari extension of 1P7 works great on Safari 14, so you are using something specific that causes this incompatibility. So, it's basically your decision to leave Safari 14 users behind.
I am immediately upgrading to Monterey, so I will have Safari 15, but still cannot understand your reasoning behind this. Anyway, it's not that important. Just get rid of Electron and make a native app for the Mac. Everything else is secondary.

@petvas

Just get rid of Electron and make a native app for the Mac. Everything else is secondary.

The app being "native" or not is literally the least important aspect in a piece of security software like a password manager. I said this elsewhere, but people should appreciate 1P's exceptional security architecture (that pretty much blows the competition out of the water), instead of lamenting over fancy looks or the lack thereof.

The app being "native" or not is literally the least important aspect in a piece of security software like a password manager. I said this elsewhere, but people should appreciate 1P's exceptional security architecture (that pretty much blows the competition out of the water), instead of lamenting on fancy looks or the lack thereof.

I understand what you are saying and I agree that security is a very important aspect. The UI is very important too and with 1P8 we are having a regression, at least on the Mac. Mac users want polished apps that behave like Mac apps. Apps that use native UI controls and features. The backend might be great, I have no doubt about that, but from a user perspective the experience when using the software must be great. I also know that it is still an alpha version, but I am worried that the Mac app will never get to be as integrated with the OS as 1P7 is. It will never have the scrolling mechanism that a native Mac app has. It will look weird. Is that a deal breaker? For me yes.
Maybe for businesses this is not important (and it probably shouldn't be), but for the typical home user that needs a secure vault, the iCloud Keychain provides great security and with Monterey it will also have a nice UI, which of course feels like a Mac app.
There was a time where 1Password and LastPass were the two big names in the industry. Mac users chose 1Password over Last Pass mainly because the latter didn't have a proper Mac app. 1Password on the contrary offered great Mac apps and integrated perfect with the OS. This was the reason I chose 1Password. This is the reason most people chose it (on the Mac). Now Agile Bits is taking this away from us, so I am sorry, despite the very good back-end, I will not be using this bad app.

@FCNV Not even close!

@FCNV P.S. - Just because someone has an opposite opinion as you doesn't mean they are astroturfing. Feel free to act like a complete jerk and make baseless accusations but you are incorrect.

@petvas

despite the very good back-end, I will not be using this bad app.

The look and feel is not what makes a password manager a good app. You're setting the wrong priorities. But by all means, if you choose design over function (security, in this case), move on and look for something else that is easier on your eyes. 1P can't please everyone.