Electron

Alright, time to find another password manager I guess. I always went back to 1Password because it just felt the best on Mac, but now that yet another company looses its mind and goes the electron way, I'll have to start looking again.

As a side note: A password manager company collecting hundreds of million of dollars of capital leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

I have already begun, found and purchased my new native password manager

@macw wish you could share what you decided to use. I plan on doing this as well, just haven't gone and done the research yet. Unfortunately, 8 pages of discussion don't seem to have moved the needle, so the only thing we can do is vote with our wallet and recommendations.

Thanks for creating an account here to share, @macw -- and stay safe out there. :)

I just want to add myself to this conversation and express that I too have been using 1P for many years and this a huge disappointment for me. I originally chose 1P for being a great native app beautifully built (as many of the other software choices I have made for all my devices). I understand the need of some users to cross-platform and I could care less how the developers decide to provide them this added functionality for those platforms - be it via a browser plugin or web renderer app - as long as the Mac app were to remain native. But switching to a renderer app on a Mac is a huge betrayal to the core users who supported 1P from the start. I was hoping that there would be a course reversal over the past months for the Mac platform to remain native, but at this point I have already begun, found and purchased my new native password manager and I am in the process of migrating my devices and will let my 1P family subscription come to an end (removing from my family devices at either the release of 1P8 or subscription expiration - whichever comes first). Not all long term users will bother to come post their reason for leaving as some of us have, but time will reflect this.

Sadly after a decade of being a loyal 1Password subscriber I am really disappointed with the move to Electron on Mac.
1Password 8 beta eats up 4 times as much RAM as 1Password 7 and startup time on 7 is instant, whereas on 8 it is significantly slow.
This is on a 2021 MBP M1 Max with 64GB of RAM.

Since I don't see this futile and honestly dumb effort being reversed on Mac I have no choice but taking my business and personal subscriptions elsewhere.

Really a shame, was such a good and solid product.

adamjb same sadly :(

I would also like to voice my hatred for the new 1Password 8 electron app. I gave it a try and it is in every way worse than 1Password 7, from UI to memory usage to battery usage to the number of CPU threads to the useless 1Password mini. This is not the kind of quality or performance I expect from 1Password after being a customer since at least 2016. I'm looking at other solutions to migrate my business and family accounts to.

https://blog.devgenius.io/microsoft-is-finally-ditching-electron-9e081757f9db

Just found this interesting that Teams outgrew electron. Even Microsoft seem to understand that there is break point where the technology of “cross platform” and fast deployment has diminishing returns. Even Visual studio for Mac has decided to address numerous bugs by using native Ui methods for mac( ie for the platform it resides). There is something to be said for being a good resident on the platform the app is operating on. It maybe more work, but isn’t the experience and reliability to the user on that platform what matters most?

Go down a little further in the article, it says:

Ultimately we made the painful decision to stop work on the SwiftUI Mac app and focus our SwiftUI efforts on iOS, allowing the Electron app to cover all of our supported Mac operating systems. We could have started over with AppKit as the UI toolkit for our Mac app, but this would have put us significantly behind schedule and also would have added another frontend toolkit to maintain over the long term. This decision came with a big challenge, however, as we knew we still needed to deliver a top-tier user experience on macOS.

Have I misread the 1Password 8: The Story So Far blogpost?
In there it says:

Ultimately we decided for a two-prong approach. We would build two Mac apps. One written in SwiftUI that targeted the latest operating systems and another using web UI that allowed us to cover older OSes.
As far as I understand, this means, that 1Password 8 will not use Electron on macOS, as long as you are running at least MacOS Version 10.15. Is that correct?