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Former Member
3 years ago
Update about Autofill improvements in Beta
Hey folks,
We’ve worked hard over the last three months to improve the reliability of Autofill in complex situations, such as when you have multiple items for the same website or want certain items to only be shown on a specific page.
If you’ve been using the beta, you might’ve run into the following improvements already:
* When editing an item, you can now access the “Autofill Behavior” menu, which lets you customize how an item will show on a specific page;
* When signing into websites, an opt-in improvement to the Autofill algorithm generates more reliable results in complex situations where subdomains, ports, and paths matter in order to prioritize certain items over others.
We appreciate your curiosity and have been looking on eagerly as you discovered and tested these new features. Your feedback has been very helpful, and we’re keeping track of what you shared so we can incorporate it into future versions of 1Password.
Over the last week, we’ve decided to temporarily retire the “Improved Autofill suggestions” feature. This is due to us having a very busy roadmap ahead of us and not being able to prioritize making this feature as good as it should be for the time being. However, please rest assured that we will return to it later this year and ensure it addresses all your feedback.
What this means for you
Within upcoming betas, you’ll keep seeing the “Autofill Behavior” menu. That’s not going away, and it will keep working as expected. It is slated to enter the production channel within a month or two once we’re comfortable with its performance.
The toggles for Improved Autofill Suggestions will gradually disappear from the Browser Extension and 1Password 8 betas. The behavior will revert to the original version of Autofill regardless of whether you’ve switched to the new version.
As mentioned above, we’re not abandoning this feature permanently; we’re just ensuring we’ll have enough time when we get back to working on it to truly make it shine.
Thank you for your understanding! We’re always open to your feedback and questions, so please let us know if there’s anything we can help with.
Cheers,
Gabriele
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I just installed the 8.10.0 beta of the desktop app and enabled the "Experimental Autofill Suggestions" (I didn't see any setting called "Autofill Behavior") and I can't tell what effect it has on anything. The URL matching improvements only seem to happen with the browser extension setting on Chrome and Firefox.
1P_Travis This is terribly confusing. I'm referring to the "Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions" accessible in the settings for the beta browser extensions 2.6.1 for Chrome and Firefox (I'm currently using the production channel version of the desktop app, 8.9.13) . What are you referring to with "Autofill Behaviour" settings?
The "Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions" browser beta extension setting definitely improves the URL matching.
@kfoley and DenalB are correct - the Autofill Behaviour settings will be retained within the desktop app betas. Currently, if you do adjust the Autofill Behaviour settings in the desktop app, they will be respected on all platforms. The ability to adjust Autofill Behaviour settings on other platforms is a priority and will be released in beta in the near future. The alternative autofill suggestions algorithm work that has been de-prioritized has no impact on the Autofill Behaviour settings or their function. They are separate projects.
BLD Autofill Behaviour settings weren't the most requested/biggest issue folks have been having with the Filling and Saving experience, but we will be releasing several features and improvements in the near future that do address the most requested/biggest issues customers have. Really excited to get them into beta sooner rather than later.
I hope this clarifies any confusion.
Best regards,
Travis Hogan
Senior Product Manager - Authentication
1Password
1P_Travis Have you surveyed a significant statistical sample of your user base over this issue? Just based on my casual reading of your boards over the years and my own experience with 1P, I am willing to bet that the overwhelming majority would pick this issue as your #1 problem by far to fix.
BLD Totally agree. On a DAILY basis for years I have to contend with the terrible URL matching. Competitors nailed this many, many years ago. Then it goes into beta, 1P promotes it on Twitter as something like "you will love what we are doing..", then PULL it and re-prioritize other features above this? Unacceptable. The product manager in charge of this feature needs a reality check, as they seem detached from how people use and experience the terrible matching behavior.
Was relieved to see the addition of this feature in the beta -- a feature which MANY people have been clamoring for for years, including me. It's not perfect -- it still suggests a bunch of stuff on the list that doesn't apply. But at least the most likely (and usually correct one) is usually the first suggestion. Now you're taking it away?? I'm sorry -- but beta software is not supposed to be modified at the feature level, that's alpha level software. Betas are supposed to be for bug fixes only -- at least that has been my experience at every software company I've ever written for. I remain extremely perplexed (to put it mildly) that 1P does such a poor job with URL fragment matching -- and still don't understand why it hasn't been highly prioritized to fix ages ago. It remains, in my opinion, the single biggest BUG in an otherwise great product. And now to find out you finally made it better only to yank it away again just leaves me even more "perplexed."
I did not understand whether both features will disappear in the next betas or just the browser extension feature.
@ag_Gabriele was talking about the desktop client so I expect both features will be removed. Is that correct?
I am EXCEPTIONALLY disappointed that 1Password has apparently de-prioritized an extremely important feature. In fact, the exact URL matching issue is THE most frustrating thing about 1Password. Period. Full stop. Bitwarden and others have MUCH more advanced features here. This change in direction is HIGHLY concerning about how 1Password views daily usability issues. I may now seriously look at Bitwarden as they seem to value usability more. 1Password, you have seriously failed.
However it seems like these might be two distinct features that are mostly unconnected, one of which ("Autofill Behavior") will be staying while the other ("Improved Autofill Suggestions") will be removed for the time being. Is that accurate?
That's what I understood from this discussion. I only used the "Autofill Behavior" in the Desktop app, because "Improved Autofill Suggestions" didn't work for me well. So I disabled this setting in the browser extension some days after it was introduced. The "Autofill Behavior" works for me. So I'll leave it enabled.
@kfoley yes, it's confusing to me as well. What I need: choose how much of the URL to match ... is that the part that's staying
@ag_Gabriele, can you shed some light?
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Hey folks, \nWe’ve worked hard over the last three months to improve the reliability of Autofill in complex situations, such as when you have multiple items for the same website or want certain items to only be shown on a specific page.
\n\n
If you’ve been using the beta, you might’ve run into the following improvements already: \n* When editing an item, you can now access the “Autofill Behavior” menu, which lets you customize how an item will show on a specific page; \n* When signing into websites, an opt-in improvement to the Autofill algorithm generates more reliable results in complex situations where subdomains, ports, and paths matter in order to prioritize certain items over others.
\n\n
We appreciate your curiosity and have been looking on eagerly as you discovered and tested these new features. Your feedback has been very helpful, and we’re keeping track of what you shared so we can incorporate it into future versions of 1Password.
\n\n
Over the last week, we’ve decided to temporarily retire the “Improved Autofill suggestions” feature. This is due to us having a very busy roadmap ahead of us and not being able to prioritize making this feature as good as it should be for the time being. However, please rest assured that we will return to it later this year and ensure it addresses all your feedback.
\n\n
What this means for you \nWithin upcoming betas, you’ll keep seeing the “Autofill Behavior” menu. That’s not going away, and it will keep working as expected. It is slated to enter the production channel within a month or two once we’re comfortable with its performance.
\n\n
The toggles for Improved Autofill Suggestions will gradually disappear from the Browser Extension and 1Password 8 betas. The behavior will revert to the original version of Autofill regardless of whether you’ve switched to the new version.
\n\n
As mentioned above, we’re not abandoning this feature permanently; we’re just ensuring we’ll have enough time when we get back to working on it to truly make it shine.
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Thank you for your understanding! We’re always open to your feedback and questions, so please let us know if there’s anything we can help with.
\n\n
Cheers, \nGabriele
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Hey folks, \nWe’ve worked hard over the last three months to improve the reliability of Autofill in complex situations, such as when you have multiple items for the same website or want certain items to only be shown on a specific page.
\n\n
If you’ve been using the beta, you might’ve run into the following improvements already: \n* When editing an item, you can now access the “Autofill Behavior” menu, which lets you customize how an item will show on a specific page; \n* When signing into websites, an opt-in improvement to the Autofill algorithm generates more reliable results in complex situations where subdomains, ports, and paths matter in order to prioritize certain items over others.
\n\n
We appreciate your curiosity and have been looking on eagerly as you discovered and tested these new features. Your feedback has been very helpful, and we’re keeping track of what you shared so we can incorporate it into future versions of 1Password.
\n\n
Over the last week, we’ve decided to temporarily retire the “Improved Autofill suggestions” feature. This is due to us having a very busy roadmap ahead of us and not being able to prioritize making this feature as good as it should be for the time being. However, please rest assured that we will return to it later this year and ensure it addresses all your feedback.
\n\n
What this means for you \nWithin upcoming betas, you’ll keep seeing the “Autofill Behavior” menu. That’s not going away, and it will keep working as expected. It is slated to enter the production channel within a month or two once we’re comfortable with its performance.
\n\n
The toggles for Improved Autofill Suggestions will gradually disappear from the Browser Extension and 1Password 8 betas. The behavior will revert to the original version of Autofill regardless of whether you’ve switched to the new version.
\n\n
As mentioned above, we’re not abandoning this feature permanently; we’re just ensuring we’ll have enough time when we get back to working on it to truly make it shine.
\n\n
Thank you for your understanding! We’re always open to your feedback and questions, so please let us know if there’s anything we can help with.
\n\n
Cheers, \nGabriele
\n\n\n\n
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I just installed the 8.10.0 beta of the desktop app and enabled the \"Experimental Autofill Suggestions\" (I didn't see any setting called \"Autofill Behavior\") and I can't tell what effect it has on anything. The URL matching improvements only seem to happen with the browser extension setting on Chrome and Firefox.
I just installed the 8.10.0 beta of the desktop app and enabled the \"Experimental Autofill Suggestions\" (I didn't see any setting called \"Autofill Behavior\") and I can't tell what effect it has on anything. The URL matching improvements only seem to happen with the browser extension setting on Chrome and Firefox.
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1P_Travis This is terribly confusing. I'm referring to the \"Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions\" accessible in the settings for the beta browser extensions 2.6.1 for Chrome and Firefox (I'm currently using the production channel version of the desktop app, 8.9.13) . What are you referring to with \"Autofill Behaviour\" settings?
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The \"Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions\" browser beta extension setting definitely improves the URL matching.
This is terribly confusing. I'm referring to the \"Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions\" accessible in the settings for the beta browser extensions 2.6.1 for Chrome and Firefox (I'm currently using the production channel version of the desktop app, 8.9.13) . What are you referring to with \"Autofill Behaviour\" settings?
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The \"Autofill - Improved Autofill Suggestions\" browser beta extension setting definitely improves the URL matching.
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@kfoley and DenalB are correct - the Autofill Behaviour settings will be retained within the desktop app betas. Currently, if you do adjust the Autofill Behaviour settings in the desktop app, they will be respected on all platforms. The ability to adjust Autofill Behaviour settings on other platforms is a priority and will be released in beta in the near future. The alternative autofill suggestions algorithm work that has been de-prioritized has no impact on the Autofill Behaviour settings or their function. They are separate projects.
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BLD Autofill Behaviour settings weren't the most requested/biggest issue folks have been having with the Filling and Saving experience, but we will be releasing several features and improvements in the near future that do address the most requested/biggest issues customers have. Really excited to get them into beta sooner rather than later.
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I hope this clarifies any confusion.
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Best regards, \nTravis Hogan \nSenior Product Manager - Authentication \n1Password
@kfoley and are correct - the Autofill Behaviour settings will be retained within the desktop app betas. Currently, if you do adjust the Autofill Behaviour settings in the desktop app, they will be respected on all platforms. The ability to adjust Autofill Behaviour settings on other platforms is a priority and will be released in beta in the near future. The alternative autofill suggestions algorithm work that has been de-prioritized has no impact on the Autofill Behaviour settings or their function. They are separate projects.
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Autofill Behaviour settings weren't the most requested/biggest issue folks have been having with the Filling and Saving experience, but we will be releasing several features and improvements in the near future that do address the most requested/biggest issues customers have. Really excited to get them into beta sooner rather than later.
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I hope this clarifies any confusion.
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Best regards, \nTravis Hogan \nSenior Product Manager - Authentication \n1Password
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1P_Travis Have you surveyed a significant statistical sample of your user base over this issue? Just based on my casual reading of your boards over the years and my own experience with 1P, I am willing to bet that the overwhelming majority would pick this issue as your #1 problem by far to fix.
Have you surveyed a significant statistical sample of your user base over this issue? Just based on my casual reading of your boards over the years and my own experience with 1P, I am willing to bet that the overwhelming majority would pick this issue as your #1 problem by far to fix.
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BLD Totally agree. On a DAILY basis for years I have to contend with the terrible URL matching. Competitors nailed this many, many years ago. Then it goes into beta, 1P promotes it on Twitter as something like \"you will love what we are doing..\", then PULL it and re-prioritize other features above this? Unacceptable. The product manager in charge of this feature needs a reality check, as they seem detached from how people use and experience the terrible matching behavior.
Totally agree. On a DAILY basis for years I have to contend with the terrible URL matching. Competitors nailed this many, many years ago. Then it goes into beta, 1P promotes it on Twitter as something like \"you will love what we are doing..\", then PULL it and re-prioritize other features above this? Unacceptable. The product manager in charge of this feature needs a reality check, as they seem detached from how people use and experience the terrible matching behavior.
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Was relieved to see the addition of this feature in the beta -- a feature which MANY people have been clamoring for for years, including me. It's not perfect -- it still suggests a bunch of stuff on the list that doesn't apply. But at least the most likely (and usually correct one) is usually the first suggestion. Now you're taking it away?? I'm sorry -- but beta software is not supposed to be modified at the feature level, that's alpha level software. Betas are supposed to be for bug fixes only -- at least that has been my experience at every software company I've ever written for. I remain extremely perplexed (to put it mildly) that 1P does such a poor job with URL fragment matching -- and still don't understand why it hasn't been highly prioritized to fix ages ago. It remains, in my opinion, the single biggest BUG in an otherwise great product. And now to find out you finally made it better only to yank it away again just leaves me even more \"perplexed.\"
Was relieved to see the addition of this feature in the beta -- a feature which MANY people have been clamoring for for years, including me. It's not perfect -- it still suggests a bunch of stuff on the list that doesn't apply. But at least the most likely (and usually correct one) is usually the first suggestion. Now you're taking it away?? I'm sorry -- but beta software is not supposed to be modified at the feature level, that's alpha level software. Betas are supposed to be for bug fixes only -- at least that has been my experience at every software company I've ever written for. I remain extremely perplexed (to put it mildly) that 1P does such a poor job with URL fragment matching -- and still don't understand why it hasn't been highly prioritized to fix ages ago. It remains, in my opinion, the single biggest BUG in an otherwise great product. And now to find out you finally made it better only to yank it away again just leaves me even more \"perplexed.\"
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I did not understand whether both features will disappear in the next betas or just the browser extension feature. \n@ag_Gabriele was talking about the desktop client so I expect both features will be removed. Is that correct?
I did not understand whether both features will disappear in the next betas or just the browser extension feature. \n@ag_Gabriele was talking about the desktop client so I expect both features will be removed. Is that correct?
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I am EXCEPTIONALLY disappointed that 1Password has apparently de-prioritized an extremely important feature. In fact, the exact URL matching issue is THE most frustrating thing about 1Password. Period. Full stop. Bitwarden and others have MUCH more advanced features here. This change in direction is HIGHLY concerning about how 1Password views daily usability issues. I may now seriously look at Bitwarden as they seem to value usability more. 1Password, you have seriously failed.
I am EXCEPTIONALLY disappointed that 1Password has apparently de-prioritized an extremely important feature. In fact, the exact URL matching issue is THE most frustrating thing about 1Password. Period. Full stop. Bitwarden and others have MUCH more advanced features here. This change in direction is HIGHLY concerning about how 1Password views daily usability issues. I may now seriously look at Bitwarden as they seem to value usability more. 1Password, you have seriously failed.
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@kfoley
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However it seems like these might be two distinct features that are mostly unconnected, one of which (\"Autofill Behavior\") will be staying while the other (\"Improved Autofill Suggestions\") will be removed for the time being. Is that accurate? \nThat's what I understood from this discussion. I only used the \"Autofill Behavior\" in the Desktop app, because \"Improved Autofill Suggestions\" didn't work for me well. So I disabled this setting in the browser extension some days after it was introduced. The \"Autofill Behavior\" works for me. So I'll leave it enabled.
However it seems like these might be two distinct features that are mostly unconnected, one of which (\"Autofill Behavior\") will be staying while the other (\"Improved Autofill Suggestions\") will be removed for the time being. Is that accurate? \nThat's what I understood from this discussion. I only used the \"Autofill Behavior\" in the Desktop app, because \"Improved Autofill Suggestions\" didn't work for me well. So I disabled this setting in the browser extension some days after it was introduced. The \"Autofill Behavior\" works for me. So I'll leave it enabled.
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@kfoley yes, it's confusing to me as well. What I need: choose how much of the URL to match ... is that the part that's staying \n@ag_Gabriele, can you shed some light?
@kfoley yes, it's confusing to me as well. What I need: choose how much of the URL to match ... is that the part that's staying \n@ag_Gabriele, can you shed some light?
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