Multiple Vaults
Hi everyone,
today I tried Multiple Vaults for the first time and I have a few questions about it.
Why do I need a separate Master PW for the new fault? Everytime I unlock my 1P with my main PW it also unlocks the other Vaults. So why do I even have to enter a Master PW for the second fault when I create it?
I thought Multiple Vaults would work like Multiple User Accounts for Windows or Mac, where you have to unlock all Accounts/Vaults separately.
Although I love it, that I only have to remember 1 Password to unlock all Vaults, I don't get it why I even have to enter a second PW for the other Vault than! Now I have 1 Master PW from my Main Vault which unlocks all Vaults and a second PW from my second Fault that does what?
Maybe you can help me, so that I understand the whole concept of Multiple Vaults. For now it seems a little bit of a mess to me, because it seems to me that you wanted to create something like Multiple Accounts, but without loosing the 1 Password thing. But when I only need 1 Password to unlock all Faults, why even ask for a second PW when creating a new Vault?
Beside that, 1P is the BEST password manager out there and you really do a great job.
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Like your good self I've just started to create vaults and separate 2000 individual pw's id's etc into a master (primary) and two secondary vaults. The designed(or accidental) default ability to unlock all 3 from the main 1PW interface (not 1PW mini) is actually useful I find. In practise that still gives the ability for any other user to have an individual pw(which you can specify when creating NEW VAULT on main 1PW) for each user when subsequently using 1PW mini such that they can only access their specific vault and no others. Seems working as designed to me but perhaps I'm missing something? There's also PREFERENCE option to lock the vaults presumably when main 1PW screen is closed albeit I haven't yet experimented with that. Somewhat more challenging is setting up individual SYNC's on say DROPBOX for each VAULT as I've yet to find a tool/option to check for duplicates in each vault.
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Each vault needs its own password because you do not ever want data unencrypted on a server like Dropbox for example. This password guarantees only you or your authorized users get access to that data.
You would not necessarily want to use the same password for your private vault with some users using a secondary vault at your office. You want to limit them to only what data that they truly need access to. I wrote the following a bit ago, to try and explain to another user. Maybe it will shed some light here.
Its also compartmentalizing the need to access such data. You can get as complex as you wish.
Any time you unlock the primary vault you are essentially saying hey I am the owner I need access to ALL my data. This being the case 1Password auto unlocks all vaults when you enter the Master Password for the primary vault.
If you happen to need data just out of the secondary vault. (e.g. You need to give an employee access on your computer) You can always unlock the 2nd vault independently of the first using its own Master Password associated with that vault. (see below). This is useful if you need to give access to a 2nd vault to the kids and a Netflix login etc, while protecting your banking info in the primary vault. The design would allow YOU access to the bank and Netflix with no restrictions.
So this behavior is by design.
Primary vault - Gives access to all vaults, no matter at what point you open this vault.
Auxiliary vaults - Can be opened independently of the Primary from the locked state.
- From locked state open 2 w/ its Master Password , = access to 2 only
- From locked state open 3 w/ its Master Password , = access to 3 only
- From locked open 2 w/ its Master Password , = access to 2 / then switch to 3, you need to enter in 3's Master Password to gain access.
- From locked open 2 w/ its Master Password , = access to 2 / then switch to Primary = ALL vaults unlocked 1,2,3, ∞
I hope I didn't confuse you more.
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Ahh, thanks a lot. That helped me a lot to better understand the behavior of multiple vaults. Especially the sharing thing is great.
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On behalf of @thightower, you're welcome. Please let us know if you have any other questions! :)
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