Electron

Hey @ntrm:

Thanks for asking! Dave has written a bit about the choice of Electron in a Medium post:

Behind the scenes of 1Password for Linux | by Dave Teare | Medium

While the title is Linux, the technology decisions discussed apply to the Mac and Windows versions as well. Dave lays out the architecture in detail, and will be having a follow-up post in the future specific to Mac.

Jack

Hi Ben,
thanks a lot for providing quick feedback all the time, I really appreciate it. Is there a place where you explain the philosophies/reasons for switching to electron so I might better understand why you did it? Might help with empathy toward the whole thing.

Thanks folks. I was just working with another customer on the performance with scrolling. Hopefully we can track that down. 🤞🏻With my setup (and thousands of items) it is smooth, but I understand that isn't the experience everyone is having. We'll try to get that nailed down.

As for resizing the window... do you find that is an operation you do frequently? If so, could you please elaborate on that? I'd be interested to better understand this use case and associated pain point.

Ben

I must agree with neonox, while I've been using 1Password since 2011 and while 1Password 8 looks fancy, the performance is just not the same when having a lot of passwords. While I'm still a customer, I'll be actively checking out alternatives that offer native apps. :(

Yes I have tried it (a few minutes ago and already deleted it). The performance is worse compared to a native app. For example: scrolling. I have over thousands password entries, scrolling through them is not as smooth as in 1Password7. Resizing the window is not as smooth as in 1Password7. I pay for native apps and ditch non-native apps. They will always try to have the look and feel of the native version, but in many cases they fail.

Hi @neonox

Have you tried 1Password 8? What specifically is 'terrible' about it? Surely there is plenty more work to be done, but overall I think we've made a pretty great app. Happy to hear if you disagree, but 'just terrible' isn't particularly actionable feedback. If there are specific elements we can improve for you we'd like to hear about them. Thanks!

Ben

Not having a native app is a dealbreaker for our team. We will switch if this is the future of 1Password.

Non-native apps are just terrible, a good example how terrible it can be is Philips Hue app. Sorry 1Password, bye.

@Yolanda - to be clear both for you and anyone else reading this, 1Password data can be hosted in either the US (.com), Canada (.ca) or Frankfurt (.eu), depending on which TLD a user signs up at. Data resides only in the region it was created in, so GDPR subjects can have entire-European-held data. And in all three regions, your 1Password data is always treated the same: encrypted and decrypted only on your local device, before anything is transmitted to our server, so that all we ever possess is ciphertext, and we have neither your encryption keys nor the secrets (your Password and Secret Key) with which to derive those keys. To my knowledge, AES256 is still the algorithm the NSA themselves continue to use, and the worldwide push to make law enforcement access to encrypted data easier suggests that none of these agencies have yet broken it.

That said, thanks for your support over the years, and stay safe -- we'll be here if you decide you'd like to return. :)

Welcome to the 1Password Support Community, @markus3141! Thanks for creating an account here at the 1Password community. We're sorry to see you go, and we'll be here if you decide to come back. Stay safe out there. :)

I also say Goodbye to 1password, not only because they go the Electron way. Also because I don't like the abo business modell. After some time exploring the market of password managers I stick with enpass. And believe it or not - i found enpass is much better than 1password.
First of all: A nice UI or native App isn't the real gamechanger - its functionality The integration of enpass into iOS and Browsers is better and they got it to work that I can use the same iCloud Database from my Mac and on Windows. 1password never got this to work. And even more, enpass offers so much possibilities of ways to sync - also webdav and wlan sync. 1password is so much limited in that because they want you to pay their abo. And even if i would pay their abo, they use Servers located in US where the NSA torch all data going through. No way for me!

Thanks 1password, we had some good years togehter, but there comes a day to say "Goodbye".
You follow the path of money, ignoring the calls of your loyal users all these years.
So it's not hard for me to say goodbye.

Yo