1P8 version of Safari Plugin on Mac

Lacrocious

The current version of 1Password for Safari is 2.7.0. It is not possible for it to work with collections at this time. We've had requests (myself included) for this ability. At this time there is no news I can provide on the feature request. In the interim, you might look into using Quick Access and it can make use of collections.

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Ah - OK. I thought the 1P8 release was across the board, not just for the stand-a-lone apps. Please add another vote to have the browser plugin functionality brought current with the rest of the line. Thank you,
- L

Hey Lacrocious,

Thank you for getting back to us, I have passed on your feedback to the team.

ref: PB31223711

I have been trying to find more information on this.

When I migrated from 1PW7 to 1PW8 my previous browser plugin no longer worked. When I selected Settings -> Browser in the app, there is a button to 'Get 1Password for your Browser', which is the standalone browser app. Is this now the only option?

I prefer to not need a standalone browser app that separately syncs. My previous experience with this was that my desktop app and the standalone browser app would often get out of sync, which was very frustrating. The integrated browser extension (just the extension) always worked much better - is it possible to bring that back?

Or is this yet another feature that was removed with 1PW8?

Hi @Waterside, the classic extension was built for the 1Password 7 app. It does not work and will not be supported in 1Password 8. To save and fill with 1Password 8, you'll need the newer standalone extension: https://support.1password.com/getting-started-browser/

I'm curious, did you use the standalone extension with 1Password 7? Is that where you saw issues with syncing? If so, I'm happy to let you know that we've made updates to the standalone extension and 1Password 8 so that they can connect better. I recommend using the standalone extension with 1Password 8, and if you run into any issues, please let us know. We're here to help with anything that comes up.

Why do I need a separate standalone app for the browser only in addition to the separate standalone desktop app? This is pointless and needless clutter and bloat. What happened with keeping things simple as in the past?

Chrome and Firefox both work with their plugins (no separate app needed), but for safari I am force to install extra wasteful bloat?

The integrated browser extension worked well with 1PW7 and was very efficient and consistent. No the standalone browser and and standalone desktop app did not always work well together so I abandoned it (It had no value for me anyway) I am trying the standalone app for the browser now with 1PW8 since I have no other choice.

Sadly this is just one of many items I have found with 1PW8 where existing usability and efficiency features have been removed. At this point I don't think I will be continuing with 1PW in its current state. As one that has used 1PW since v3 this is a huge disappointment.

To add: I was going to leave aside the above noted discrepancy between the standalone desktop app and standalone browser app, but it really is yet another example of the poor user experience forced on us with 1PW8. I really don't understand the reason so much usability and efficiency was removed, when it should be a goal to improve on these.

@Waterside I do want you to know that we appreciate your feedback. We're always looking for ways to improve, and we're only able to do that with input from users like you.

That said, I do want to clarify a few things. The new extension is standalone across all browsers including Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. The installation for Safari just happens to be done a little differently, due to how modern extensions are handled by Safari. Here's a thread that sheds light on that: Why is there an app associated with 1password for Safari?

Additionally, while I can understand why you prefer the experience of the classic extension, I do want to note that the standalone extension is superior to the classic extension in some important ways. First and foremost, the standalone extension makes it possible for users to use 1Password only in the browser and without the app. For those who don't want or need to manage their data via the app, the simplicity here is a benefit.

Secondly, the classic extension was not always consistent in function and design across different browsers and operating systems. For example, this is what the classic extension looked like in a browser on a Mac: https://share.cleanshot.com/NdYFhXhG. This is what the classic extension looked like in a browser on a PC: https://share.cleanshot.com/S6720wRc.

Overall the inconsistencies made it harder for us to update the classic extension and fix the different issues that would come up with it. Our solution was to make a standalone extension that was independent from the browser and operating system. This independence is what allows for the extension to provide for a more unified experience.

If you do not wish to use the standalone extension, you have the option of using Universal Autofill to fill. Universal Autofill is a feature of the 1Password 8 for Mac app, and it generally works really well. Just keep in mind that Universal Autofill has its limitations, as it is not built on top of the browser like the extension. At the moment, Universal Autofill cannot save logins, it cannot fill credit card items, and it cannot fill Identities. Hopefully all of that gets added down the road.

I do hope that you can use Universal Autofill if you choose not to install the extension. If you have any further feedback, please let us know.

Unfortunately Universal Autofill has too many gaps for me. I like this addition, but on its own it is not complete.

The fact that you present cosmetic differences between browser extensions as one need to use a standalone app is somewhat disappointing. This only reinforces my observations that 1PW8 sacrifices usability and efficiency to be "pretty".

My experience so far with chrome and Firefox extensions for 1PW8 are much better than safari. I don't have extra application entries in my macOS applications folder, and the extensions don't appear to separately sync to the server. These just work, as they always have. I'll note that other plugins don't seem to be facing this constraint so it is a little confusing.

I will note that for those that are cross-platform, cosmetic differences are normal. Different browsers themselves behave differently so I expect plugins to vary similarly to match their respective browsers.

My experience so far with the standalone browser extension has been frustrating. As I've come across issues I've come back to the forums only to find others with similar issues. Syncing does not appear to be improved, matching 1PW items to sites is horrible, and the interface for choosing which item to use (when there should only be one match) is frustrating. 1PW8 has slowed down by daily workflow tremendously.

I don't care about "pretty". Any interaction from a browser extension should be short-lived and as unobtrusive as possible - I want to be able to use it to quickly but securely fill in items then go away. This used to be a goal for 1PW which was previously well met, but to me this has been thrown out the window with 1PW8.

BTW: I will note that 1PW7 with its integrated extension does not need the separate standalone app (even on macOS 13 with safari 16), and works much more consistently.

@Waterside

Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed feedback, it really helps us make 1Password better. 🙂

Apple (relatively) recently changed how Safari extensions work and 1Password for Safari is a modern web extension. Building 1Password for Safari as a web extension allows us to follow Apple's best practices and use the latest browser APIs to include more advanced filling and functionality than we were able to include in the old Safari app extension that came with 1Password 7. Modern Safari web extensions will appear in your Mac's Applications folder when you install them.

Syncing does not appear to be improved, matching 1PW items to sites is horrible, and the interface for choosing which item to use (when there should only be one match) is frustrating.

This definitely doesn't sound right. If you update an item using 1Password on another device (or using the Mac app on the same device) those changes should be instantly available when you use 1Password in the browser. So that I can dig deeper to see why you're seeing sync issues between the app and the browser extension, I'd like to ask you to create a diagnostics report from your Mac:

Sending Diagnostics Reports (Mac)

Attach the diagnostics to an email message addressed to support+forum@1password.com.

With your email please include:

• A link to this thread: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/678944/#Comment_678944
• Your forum username: Waterside
• Please do not post your diagnostic report to the forum. This is for your privacy and security.

The report will be in zip format. Please send the entire file.

You should receive an automated reply from our BitBot assistant with a Support ID number. Please post that number here. Thanks very much!

-Dave