New Product Request: 1Password for Linux [In Progress]

chrisdj

@rberger 1Password for Teams has a web interface in which Linux users can read and edit information (as much as their Team Admin allows for an individual's permissions).

The Teams web interface does not communicate with the browser extension, so filling forms on another website is not possible with Teams on Linux.

virtualmarc

A native Linux Client like other password managers like enpass have would be great. Using 1pw with Wine works but is not that great.

Since 1pw for Teams we now have a web access which works a bit better than using the Windows Version in Wine but whats still missing is a Browser Extension, which is probably the most used part.

An idea would be a Browser Extension for 1pw for Teams. Since Browser extensions are basically just JavaScript it would probably be easy to implement since you already have JS Code to work with your vaults. (see 1password Anywhere and 1pw for Teams)

You just need to let it communicate with the sync api. Maybe cache the vaults locally.

Would be a big step forward for linux and you have a unified browser addon that works everywhere.

AGAlumB

@virtualmarc: I hope that perhaps 1Password for Teams can be a stepping stone for us in the direction of boarder platform support. A browser extension for 1Password for Teams could be awesome. Probably not easy to implement, but something we may explore. You're right that if we could get a full featured, cross-platform, browser-based version of 1Password that would give everyone a lot of flexibility. Here's hoping! :chuffed:

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AGAlumB

Thanks for your vote! Perhaps we'll be able to grant this wish one day. :)

Jakeonator

Would be GREAT!
Very buggy if it runs on Wine...

Fedora please

Ben

Hi @Jakeonator,

Thanks for the feedback! Other reports that I've heard from customers running 1Password with WINE have been positive, overall, though I understand many still want a native application. Could you please start a new thread in our 1Password for Windows forum elaborating on the difficulties you've had running 1Password in WINE? While I can't make any promises it may be possible we could improve upon this experience.

Windows - AgileBits Support Forum

Please include a link to your post here ( https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/comment/274696/#Comment_274696 ) in your new thread so we can "connect the dots."

Thanks!

Ben

FlameDuck

Another Linux (Ubuntu LTS if it matters) user here.

We're actually evaluating 1Password for Teams ATM, and it's really great, particularly compared to the alternative of using regular 1password with Google Drive. However the lack of Linux support could be a deal breaker, because using Linux is not that uncommon on Development teams.

So what's it gonna take?

ferthalangur

Greetings to All:

Full and fair disclosure: this doesn't count as a +1 for the Linux product, because I already put in my request back in October 2015. I have been watching this thread since then.

It is difficult to gauge exactly what's happening at Agilebits, wrt a Linux port, whether the situation is:
1. They don't believe that a Linux port will generate enough revenue, as a standalone product, to justify the software developer, test, QA and support staff necessary to make that a reality
2. They are working on a native Linux port at some level, whether it's something being hacked on at night clandestinely by one of their developers, or in "skunkworks," or somewhere in their product development pipeline.

Since their policy is not to disclose plans for new products or features until they are ready for Beta testing, we can't know for sure.

I would like to present an argument for the "business case" for supporting Linux.

Supporting Linux has nothing to do with pleasing the hundreds of Linux enthusiasts who have posted here on the support forum. It also has nothing to do with revenue generated by selling a Linux port. Forget about that. If you are going to sell your 1Password product like a solid commodity, like flashlights, you are limiting the longterm success of 1Password.

It does not matter if your Linux port never generates a single penny of sales revenue. That is not why you need to develop and support it.

1Password is a brand and it needs to position itself as a product for more than the "home user password vault" niche. Even small, non techy-heavy businesses are using Linux desktops these days. Large businesses are definitely going to have Linux on the desktop, as well as the need for password-vault technology on "bouncer" servers to securely store and retrieve encryption keys and passwords.

The decision-makers who are going to decide whether to evaluate, let alone purchase 1Password are going to go through their list of requirements. If Linux support is on that list, they will not bother with 1Password. Some competing products already offer Linux support. Others have stated that a Linux product is in the works. Companies are not going to buy one solution for Windows/Mac/IOS/Android and another one for Linux ... the whole point of this technology is to have secure, simple access to passwords and sensitive data where you need it.

Instead of counting how few licenses of 1Password/Linux you will be selling, you should be considering how many licenses of 1Password/Windows, 1Password/OSX, 1Password/IOS, 1Password/Android and especially monthly subscriptions to 1Password/Teams that you will not be selling because the people who would otherwise select your product as the superior one will not even consider it at the starting gate.

I would like 1Password to be the winner in this product niche. I would like to be able to recommend 1Password over "the others" to my clients and colleagues, without reservation. However, without Linux support, I can't do that.

FlameDuck

I would like to +1 the notion that 1Password needs to break out of the "home user password vault" niche, for two reasons.

1) There are lots of alternatives for this (it's a saturated market).
2) Most of them are free'ish, (you don't want to win a race to the bottom).

Currently 1Password is ahead of the curve, because of teams, but how long is it going to stay there? How long will it be before someone adds "Teams" functionality to KeePass?

AGAlumB

@FlameDuck, @ferthalangur: Wow. Thanks! Those are some very cogent points. There are always going to be good reasons to support Linux and other platforms. 1Password for Teams is a good option now, and hopefully we'll be able to offer a more native solution in the future. :)

freefoodandmonitors

+1 for a Linux client. I'm using Ubuntu. Wine takes up 350MB, I had to create my own *.desktop file for the launch bar, and have to manually reset the Helper at odd times. It doesn't work with my team's vaults. It has frozen my computer already today.

Ben

Thanks for the feedback, and the vote, @freefoodandmonitors. :)

Ben

niemalsnever

@freefoodandmonitors This might be only a small silver lining for you, but I've been able to fix the "restart the 1PW Helper at odd times"- thingy and also having to start and restart the helper after booting my computer by following this simple tutorial to have the 1PW Helper autostart when my PC starts which @JohnHeroHD linked a few weeks ago here:

http://www.johnherohd.com/1password-on-ubuntu-automatically-start-the-helper/

I did this on a Linux Mint machine, but it should basically work similarily on Ubuntu.

AGAlumB

Indeed! I enjoyed that tip myself. Cheers! :)

Nitecon

I built an app that uses node.js + golang that allows me to read / use my 1password files on linux. If anyone is interested in this let me know and I'll be happy to upload the work to github. If you are a golang dev feel free to also let me know as I can definitely use support on this.

As a side note because it's electron (node_us) and golang it can run on any platform windows / linux / mac but currently it only shows the mobile view.

Nitecon

I ended up pushing the repo to github so anyone with some knowledge in golang / node.js (electron) will be ablet o build it. Once the app has it's configuration mangement done I'll start generating the binaries so it can just be downloaded to run. Link for the app is here: https://github.com/Nitecon/1Password

Ben

Thanks for doing that, @Nitecon! This is one of the great things about having an open data format.

That said, we cannot recommend that anyone enter their Master Password into anything other than 1Password.

Ben

Nitecon

100% agree with @bwoodruff which is why I made it fully open source so people are welcome to contribute and also validate the source code that there is no nefarious stuff going on. Also in it's current state it uses the 1password anywhere by just providing a web server around it similar to how dropbox works. One addition that I will probably make since you're using knockout is to just put in an asside so we can add new items instead of just view and maybe an interface for 1password browser extension.

BeOS

Hey AgileBits fellows!

A couple of suggestions:

1. Now that Swift is available for Ubuntu (not production ready, but usable nonetheless), and some people have created open source GTK bindings for it, porting 1Password to Linux might be easier than before. Also if your Windows version is written in .NET, another alternative is to port it over to Linux using Mono (and re-implement the UI) and eventually migrate it to .NET Core.
2. You might want to create an Indiegogo or Kickstarter campaign to crowd fund the project and then hire a couple of experienced Linux developers (C++ or Mono/C#) to build it. Now that Ubuntu is going to enter the mobile and tablet markets more seriously, I think the ROI wouldn't be that bad either, if not beyond expectations. ;)

Cheers!

illizian

+1 for a Linux app
+1 for donating to a Kickstarter

davetypes

I signed up just to tell you that adding a Linux app would be a killer feature for me and my team. I've paid for multiple versions of 1Password in the past and have been very happy with 1Password on OS X and the iPhone. Lack of Linux support is the one thing I've been very unhappy with.

Ben

Thank you for all the feedback and votes folks.

Now that Swift is available for Ubuntu (not production ready, but usable nonetheless), and some people have created open source GTK bindings for it, porting 1Password to Linux might be easier than before.

Could be. :)

Also if your Windows version is written in .NET, another alternative is to port it over to Linux using Mono (and re-implement the UI) and eventually migrate it to .NET Core.

I believe our Windows application is written primarily in Delphi. I'm honestly not sure what language is behind our new Windows 10 beta, but it may very well be .NET of some sort.

I think the ROI wouldn't be that bad either, if not beyond expectations.

While I'm sure the ROI is thought about at some level, I can say that it is not the primary factor for why we don't have a Linux application. To avoid spreading ourselves too thin we need to finish up some other projects (for some definition of finish) before we take on others. Simply throwing more developers -- even good developers -- at the problem isn't a viable solution. There is a lot more to shipping a product than just development. There is also design, customer service, QA, etc, and resources are required from each of those camps.

Thanks.

Ben

awff1

I just registered specifically to leave a +1 -- a Linux client is for us becoming a necessity. I've been a longtime license holder of 1password, but I like others will be forced to switch away unless the product becomes truly cross-platform.

It is surprising that it has taken 5 years of requests, and still there's been no motion on this.

With dissatisfaction in Windows 10 (telemetry features that can't be disabled, etc.) and the quality of Apple's software apparently on a downward trajectory (http://www.cultofmac.com/405387/walt-mossberg-apple-should-fix-its-software-in-2016/), many people and companies are moving to Linux for a stable and reliable desktop experience.

By October, Ubuntu is set to release a version that will (allegedly) work across devices -- isn't it wise to skate to where the puck is going, not to where it's been?

whargrove

Going to toss my hat into the ring here because 1Password for Linux is an omission that may have been passable in 2010 (when this post was created) but is inexcusable almost 6 years later.

dukeofgarda

+1 for linux support

dcdeiv

Please, I don't want to use Wine. Just make a Linux version of 1Password! I don't care if it's deb or not. Give me the source code and I will compile it myself!

rationaloutlook

+1 for Linux support.

adamlogan

Registered here put in my +1 for a linux client despite reading the faq and the article about using the windows version on wine. I use virtual machines and a multi boot environment frequently, Linux is handy for many reasons. I think the people who are willing to spend money for a quality password manager are going to be the same ones who value security, privacy, and convenience. Sounds like the computer geek to me, and I suspect the number of computer of geeks that use linux too is probably high. How many of these same people get to decide what software gets put on computer labs for their institution or business?

Anyways, I would greatly appreciate a desktop client, I'll ask nicely, please :) . Considering the fact that you don't have to support a webservice like lastpass does, to provide a webapp with all our data on the cloud, I would like to think you could be putting that saved/extra cash to fund development of a linux client.

Lacking cross platform support is the biggest missing feature in your product. The neglect is quite unnecessary, there is a lot of untapped help if you are willing to work with the open source community, You can explore use of the appropriate license to protect your work/intellectual property.

For perspective, what's the next biggest feature you have on the roadmap currently? Bug squashing? A native Linux client is top of the list in mine, and a lot of other ex lastpass users minds. After that it's all gravy.

dfuentes77

+++1 here. 4 words: LastPass has linux support. Why would you want to let whole companies choose Lastpass over 1Password because of the need for a Linux client. There is ever increasing demand for Linux compatibility, especially among developers?