This may not be the place for this comment/inquiry and, if so, admins just delete it. I’m a long-time user of 1 Password - sometime around 2008-2009 - using an iMac and a MacBook Air. Happily retired with no business use for, or need to share, 1Password. To me, and perhaps for other users like me, 1Password has gotten a little “too big for its britches”. Surely, I haven’t been using all the “features” of 1Password but, on the other hand, I don’t want or need them. I can handle those few accounts where 2FA is needed without help (or need) from 1Password. All of those pop-up boxes that seem to appear whenever I enter information on a website are not needed. There is absolutely no need for me to keep the information found in the “Passwords” category of my one vault … why would I need to know a password that I used with a long since deleted account, credit card or whatever in 2009? In the end, what I want is a simpler version of 1Password. Does something like I’m after even exist? 1Password Version: 7.8.7 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: MacOS 11.6

Hi lerbi! why would I need to know a password that I used with a long since deleted account, credit card or whatever in 2009? I am not sure I understand what you mean here, can you elaborate? If you don't need any item you have stored in 1Password, can you not just delete it? In the end, what I want is a simpler version of 1Password. Does something like I’m after even exist? Yes, you can use the browser extension alone in your browser: Get 1Password in your browser It sounds like you don't need all the power of the desktop app, so perhaps you might enjoy using just the browser extension.

Hi @ ag_ana, I think I know what lerbi is talking about, especially regarding the Passwords category. 1Password adds an entry to this category every time it generates a new password, even if the user creates or modifies a login with the same password. I've sometimes found that useful in situations where I had to generate several passwords, one after the other, to get one that satisfied the site's requirements. As you say, you can delete them manually, although I believe lerbi would prefer an option not to save them in the vault at all.

Hello ag-ana The response that you received from Radoc is correct. I don't understand why the Passwords category is necessary to begin with. Certainly there are other, more specific, categories that already exist without the need to keep track of every password that has ever been generated in 1Password. For example, my Passwords category shows a password generated in July of 2009 for a credit card that was probably closed right around that time. The Passwords category, if it has to exist at all, should have some way to automatically delete (not archive) passwords generated after a certain amount of time has passed. Simply put, it's overkill. 1Password needs to simplify, simplify, simplify!

Have to say, on similar lines, there's one thing that I find not quite so helpful. One of the categories in 1P is 'Email Accounts'. I have all my accounts entered there BUT in most cases, whenever I want to log in using a mobile phone, I get the use details from 1 Password prompts and often there is only a list that I can scroll down (Log Ins I think) with no option to select 'Search 1 Password'. As such I end up creating duplicates of the Email Account entries in Log Ins which in turn increases the password count on the device and also gives me a a notification under Watch Tower of Re-used Password. It's not just emails that applies too. Numerous categories with the default cards containing info that you need but that also don't show up in the list of logins and if the app doesn't give you the Search 1 Password option, that's another log in you need ti duplicate. Surely it would be better if Search 1 Password was an option every single time, it would then be able to pick up the entry from the search term, rather than having multiple duplicate entries because it will only bring up a list of log ins. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Hi lerbi and Chevalier: The categories other than Logins, Credit Cards, and Identities are for items that either you don't need to have automatically filled in, or don't make sense to think about in the context of automatically filled. For example, the Passwords category might be better thought of as the PINs category. Your gym locker combination doesn't have a login, but you'd like to store your locker combination in a secure field, or your alarm code at work along with the combination to arm or disarm the system after entering your code. Similarly, if you have an email account that doesn't offer webmail, and instead requires you to use a dedicated email client and configure settings manually, a new item created in the Email Account category will have room for various IMAP/SMTP settings you would need to configure your email client. This carries on to the Bank Account category and so on. In your case Chevalier, as these sound like webmail accounts, the best place for them to belong would be in the Login category, as they're something that makes sense to be automatically filled. Jack

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1P_Tommy
Moderator
3 years ago
Sounds good Kevin! We'll keep a light on for you.
kevan_Dalby
New Contributor
3 years ago
Hi Jack, things seem to have improved slightly but that may be because I am not trying to use it so much!!! I will monitor the situation and post again if issues continue. Thanks
Jack_P_1P
1Password Team
3 years ago
Hi kevan_Dalby:

Are you still running into trouble with 1Password 8? Let me know if you are, and I'll be happy to dig in further with you!

Jack
tortugonal
New Contributor
3 years ago
I retired last summer. I still have plenty of reasons to continue using and supporting 1Password, but I think 1Password has moved pretty far in the direction of supporting the enterprise. At the same time, Apple has been improving its iCloud Keychain tools for passwords (now including 2FA support) such that iCloud Keychain and the built in Notes application for random info (including secure notes) will be able to replace 1Password for people who are students or post-career.

This is not meant to disparage 1Password at all. Dave and his company made a decision to go after enterprise, and that drives complexity. That's where the cash is. If they saw or see in the future a way to either create a 1Password Lite product for less, or install a button in 1Password that toggles features (even if price is the same), they may appeal more to folks like us.

If I pull out my crystal ball, I have to say that I think passwords will soon be going the way of the dodo. Already my most recent employer moved almost everyone to passwordless authentication, and I see many other places going the same way. It's true that those without a cellphone or equivalent equipment won't be served by this (and I deeply appreciate the economic justice arguments), but for a large swath of the population, in several years's time, passwords will be replaced by a biometric measurement (stored in a Secure Enclave so your fingerprint or whatever is not transmitted away from you) coupled with tokens tied to something you have.
kevan_Dalby
New Contributor
3 years ago
Not sure if this is the correct place to post this but I have had nothing but problems since upgrading to 1PW 8 for Mac. Auto fill does not seem to work anymore, I am unable to tell if the correct version is being used on the Safari browser ( I dont see the little compass icon shown on the App Store ) and auto password suggestions also does not seem to work. This upgrade has been a big mistake on my part as far as I can see. How do I go back to the previous working version????? Or should I just cancel the subscription and go elsewhere??
1P_Dave
Moderator
3 years ago
lerbi

Thank you for the update, I'm happy to hear that you've decided to stick with us. Are there any issues or complications in particular, that weren't addressed earlier in this thread, that are causing you grief at the moment? I'd love to be able to help if I can or to report those issues to our developers so that we can make 1Password even better.

We're working hard on 1Password 8 for Mac and we think that we've made something amazing. 1Password 8 will feature a complete redesign that is easier and more intuitive to use. More importantly, the design will be shared across devices so that you see the same 1Password regardless of whether you're using your Mac or your iPhone. Keep an eye on our social media pages for exciting announcements ahead.

I look forward to hearing from you. 😊
lerbi
New Contributor
3 years ago
So, as the OP of this thread, I thought I'd provide an update. Nothing has changed. I've tried a couple of other well regarded password managers and, at least for me, they are even worse than what 1Password has become. Does anything more need to be said when you realize that, as of this date, 1Password 8 hasn't even been released for the Mac yet we thousands of Mac users are what brought success to 1Password to begin with? Talk about forgetting who brought you to the dance! My thoughts haven't changed, the app has become far too complicated and is just overkill for what I suspect are the great majority of 1Password users. Hey 1`Password, we don't need all the bells and whistles. Stop it. I'm soooo frustrated with this app, yet can't find another viable alternative.
Former Member
4 years ago
clarino:

Can you be clearer about how I should store a gym locker combination?

Jack was referring to creating a new item as a Password item (File > New Item > Password).

It sounds like you're saying it should be a password.

That's correct, that was the suggestion. For what it's worth, I also do the same with this type of codes.

I've tried storing it as a password in a Login and a Password. Either way, 1P just calls it a Terrible password

You might find this discussion, together with my colleague Ben's suggestion, useful to get rid of that warning :+1:

What's the correct way to store a gym locker combo?

For clarification, there isn't a correct way. The only correct way is the one that works best for you. For some people that will be a secure note, for others a password item, and I also know people who use Login items without a username for this type of information :) A Membership item could also be an option, now that I think about it:
clarino
Occasional Contributor
4 years ago
Following up to Jack Platten who wrote "... the Passwords category might be better thought of as the PINs category. Your gym locker combination doesn't have a login, but you'd like to store your locker combination in a secure field,"

Can you be clearer about how I should store a gym locker combination? It sounds like you're saying it should be a password. I've tried storing it as a password in a Login and a Password. Either way, 1P just calls it a Terrible password. What's the correct way to store a gym locker combo? Be explicit.
Former Member
4 years ago
lerbi Check out Minimalist Password Manager (https://minimalistpassword.com), it may be exactly what you are looking for.